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Hi David and all,
I didn't try any of those things, but Narator works good in word 2007, using 
windows 7, so it should be able to work in Word in windows 8.
Harry

-----Original Message----- 
From: David Hilbert Poehlman
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 10:33 PM
To: harry brown
Cc: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] [MARKETING] Re: [VICUG-L] [leadership] FW: Code 
Factory Enhances Blind and Visually ImpairedAccessibility for Windows Phone 
8

does it read and write word files? does it do spread sheets? does it work 
with cake walk or sonar? How does it work with email?.......

On Oct 16, 2013, at 4:06 PM, harry brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi Andy and all,
You mentioned about Narator getting better in Windows 7, well folks, this 
happened to me this past spring!
What happened was, a friend of myne got a windows 8 laptop.
So, I asked him, "Can I come up to your apartment and check it out? I want 
to see how Narator works!"
He, being sighted, didn't know about Narator, but he let me try it out, and 
folks, I kid you not, Narator let me read a web page, just like a screen 
reader!
I could down arrow, or, I could start from a spot on the web page, and read 
down the page from there!
Now I know, some of you are thinking what I was thinking at that moment, 
"about time!"
You're right, about time, as a matter of fact, it's past time!
But at least it happened, and I got to see it in action!
Harry

-----Original Message----- From: Baracco, Andrew W
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:48 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] [MARKETING] Re: [VICUG-L] [leadership] FW: Code 
Factory Enhances Blind and Visually ImpairedAccessibility for Windows Phone 
8

The reason that Apple is still  a minor player in the PC world is that
enterprise is heavily invested in Microsoft, and enterprise is the last
to change. One example is that at my work we are still using Windows XP,
scheduled to migrate to Windows 7 some time in the next 6 months, and
how long has Windows 7 been around?

The one thing that Apple proved, and Google reinforced is that
accessibility can be incorporated into a mainstream product without
damaging the bottom line. From a functional standpoint, it is no longer
necessary to bolt on third party accesibility solutions that cost more
than the device that they make accessible. Microsoft has an
accessibility division, and one of the main reasons that screen readers
are as effective as they are, and why they can be ready to go when a new
version of Windows comes out is because of the groundwork done by
Microsoft. Do you remember when it took screen readers two or three
years to catch up to a new version of Windows? Microsoft has the
wherewithall to build accessibility into Windows, and every new version
of narrator is just a little more robust than the last. I bought a new
windows 7 machine last year, and I fully expect that when it comes time
to replace that machine, that I will not have to pay extra for
accessibility.

Andy


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jeff Kenyon
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 12:25 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [MARKETING] Re: [VICUG-L] [leadership] FW: Code Factory
Enhances Blind and Visually ImpairedAccessibility for Windows Phone 8

> if Windows narrator is so stripped-down then why even put it on there?
It also goes for the screen and larger program as well. I have to agree
with Harry here. What is coat factory been up to in the last several
years that is going to be very beneficial? I think that what they're
doing now is a little too late. The last time I really heard much from
coat factory was when I got my Cayenne FB reader mobile. Of course, you
have to pay separately for the screen reader. I was delighted to be able
to walk into my local AT&T store and get a phone off the shelf that had
a screen reader built right into it. Now, hopefully that will be the
case with other things that are mainly used in the work world. True,
Apple has got what it needs, but now we have to expand it to what is in
use in the business and government worlds as well. The one thing that is
stopping a lot of friends of mine who are blind from getting computers
and doing things is the fact that they are having to pay for the system
twice meant for the computer in another time from screenreader. That
Windows narrator is to


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