Jim,

I am interested!  

Jose - KK4JZX


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Jim Gammon
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 8:34 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Old keyer available

I'll bet you get some guys arguing here that you should have only sent the
sound card or maybe not even that via Free Matter Butch.  Now if you were
using a specific hardware speech synthesizer like the good old days, then
that shouldn't have aroused anyone's irritation level here.  But, on second
thought, well, I'll just drop it.  I must apologize for bringing up the
whole matter or is it Free Matter issue yesterday when I advertised the Old
Keyer available.  Meanwhile, it still is! Jim WA6EKS
 ----- Original Message -----
From: Butch Bussen <[log in to unmask]
To: [log in to unmask]
Date sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:55:38 -0700
Subject: Re: Old keyer available

One way to speed things up is to insure the package.  I've done that more
than once and I've found package goes very fast.  I shipped a talking
computer from Wallace to Vegas during the Christmas rush, and it almost beat
me home.  I shipped it Thursday, paid insurance only, and it was at my door
Saturday.  If anyone thinks this talking computer shouldn't have been sent
free mater, don't bother complaining to the list.  I'm not going to debate
the point.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


\On Wed, 12 Sep 2012, Steve
Dresser wrote:

 Correct.  If there's space available, the item will be shipped with the
first class mail.  If not, it will be shipped with fourth class mail.  This
is why you sometimes receive things the next day, and sometimes it takes a
week or two.

 Steve

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Ronald E.  Milliman" <[log in to unmask]
 To: <[log in to unmask]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 11:50
 Subject: Re: Old keyer available


 It is my understanding that items mailed as "Free Matter for the Blind"
 are
 shipped at the convenience of the post office and do not receive priority
shipping.

 Ron M.  (K8HSY

 At 05:42 AM 9/12/2012 -0400, Scott Howell wrote:
 And Ron as I understand (and perhaps incorrectly) such items sent via =
free matter do not get the same priority as other pieces of mail.

 On Sep 11, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Ronald E.  Milliman =
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

 A keyer is absolutely not eligible to be mailed as "Free Matter for =  the
Blind."  It is not made specifically for a blind person and does not =  fit
within either the letter or spirit of the postal regulations.  =  Knowingly
misusing the "Free Matter for the Blind," privilege is both unethical =  and
illegal.  =20
 =20
 As the President of the South Central Kentucky Council of the Blind, I =
have  studied the postal regulations quite closely and even conferred with =
the  postal authorities to be sure I understood the regulations before we =
used  the "Free Matter for the Blind" stamped on our mailings and shipments
=  going  to our members, mailing materials to doctors' offices, etc.  
Believe =
 it or
 not, the postal inspectors will and do inspect some mailings and =
shipments  to be sure they are not in violation of the postal regulations.  
No, =
 they
 do not inspect everything that is sent as "Free Matter for the Blind," =
but  they will check anything that looks even a little suspicious.  
=20
 =20
 To use the "Free Matter for the Blind" mailing privilege, your item =  must
be  specifically for a legally blind person or persons and includes =
Braille and  large print matter and devices designed for the specific use of
blind  people.  A Victor Reader Stream can be sent as "Free Matter for the =
Blind,"
 but an Olympus DS-50, which has speech built into it, cannot be sent =  as
"Free Matter for the Blind" because the Olympus DS-50 was not designed
specifically for the blind; though, it can certainly be used by the =
blind.
 In like manner, all of the Apple products, e.g.  iPhone Apple TV, etc.
 cannot be shipped as "Free Matter for the Blind," even though they all =
have  Voiceover built into them and can be used by a blind person.  
=20
 =20
 Ron M.
 =20
 =20
 Dr.  Ronald E.  Milliman, retired Professor Western Kentucky University
 =20
 Chair, American Council of the Blind Public Relations Committee  Monthly
Monetary Support Program (MMS) Committee

 Dr.  Ronald E.  Milliman, retired Professor Western Kentucky University

 Chair, American Council of the Blind Public Relations Committee  Monthly
Monetary Support Program (MMS) Committee