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well said.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: Man O Man


>I knew someone could do it, i mean work with them.  Atleast some of us
> have a cool head.  I too get upset about lack of accessability
> sometimes but generally one has to settle unless they want to do
> something about it.
> Accessibility is like blindness in a way, you must constantly be 
> educating.
>
> Original message:
>> It is to bad that you don't read QST.  There is a lot of good information 
>> in
>> most all of the issues.  Yes BARD gets them out a little late, but at 
>> least
>> they are easy to navigate.  And the only reason that I even got in 
>> contact
>> with ARRL was  because I thought they would be open to learning about our
>> accessibility needs and wants.  They did not know that we couldn't use 
>> Adobe
>> Air.  They were happy to know that we could use Adobe X, and when I 
>> didn't
>> have all of the answers to the questions they were happy to take the 
>> names
>> of people at GW Micro and Adobe to learn more about Accessibility.  At 
>> this
>> point the project is going well and I have found them to be very thankful
>> that I wanted to have a nice and friendly education and discussion with
>> them.  The only reason I want to send a letter is to say that I know X
>> amount of people that would be interested in using the ARRL for QST if 
>> they
>> can see the way to make it useable to us.  I am also trying to learn 
>> about
>> work around in case it doesn't go well for us.  I don't have any new
>> information at this point, and I don't think I have much more to say 
>> about
>> the subject.  The only thing that I have to say right now is that If you
>> don't even read the Magazine, and if you don't like ARRL then why does it
>> get you so upset?  Thanks everyone for reading my messages and I am sorry 
>> if
>> I got anyone upset about this.  Gerry WB6IVF who is thankful for ARRL and
>> Handihams.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Harry Brown" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: Man O Man
>
>
>>> Hi there,
>>> Well, I have my rights, and a right to my oppinion, and a right to be an 
>>> =
>>> activist.
>>> I will never be silent.
>>> Now as far as ARRL and qst, I'll be glad to sign a petition, or =
>>> something, but I don't even read qst any more.
>>> I'm also in agreement with Phil, the ARRL is a joke!
>>> Trippy, ac8s
>>>  ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>  From: John Miller=20
>>>  To: [log in to unmask]
>>>  Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:23 PM
>>>  Subject: Re: Man O Man
>
>
>>>  You are the very reason it's that much harder for the rest of us, you =
>>> and=20
>>>  those who think and act like you do. By the time someone wants to talk 
>>> =
>
>>>  rationally, one of you has already dug the hole so rather than =
>>> starting from=20
>>>  ground level, the person who has the right approach and would be =
>>> listened to=20
>>>  often has to dig out of a hole first and that's often harder than =
>>> starting=20
>>>  from scratch because who ever you tried to talk to already had =
>>> negative=20
>>>  thoughts they wouldn't have had  if it wasn't for that ranting 
>>> raving=20
>>>  lunatic.
>>>  ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>  From: "Harry Brown" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>  To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>  Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 6:52 PM
>>>  Subject: Re: Man O Man
>
>
>>>> Hi Anthony,
>>>> I won't do that.
>>>> Trippy, ac8s
>
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----=3D20
>>>>  From: Anthony Vece=3D20
>>>>  To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 6:32 PM
>>>>  Subject: Re: Man O Man
>
>
>>>>  Hi Trippy or is it Tricky;
>
>>>>  Why don't you just leave accessibility to diplomats.
>
>>>>  You are only going to gum up the works and make bad for the rest of =
>>> =3D
>>>> us.
>
>>>>  73 de Anthony w2ajv
>
>
>
>>>>  Sent from my Verizon iPhone!
>
>>>>  On Mar 21, 2012, at 6:06 PM, Harry Brown <[log in to unmask]> =
>>> =3D
>>>> wrote:
>
>>>>> Hi Butch,
>>>>> I strongly agree with you on this one.
>>>>> People build things with no thought to accessability, no thought =
>>> at =3D
>>>> all.
>>>>> Trippy, ac8s
>>>>>  ----- Original Message -----=3D3D20
>>>>>  From: Butch Bussen=3D3D20
>>>>>  To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:44 PM
>>>>>  Subject: Re: Man O Man
>
>
>>>>>  (If this stuff was  designed from the ground up with =
>>> accessibility =3D
>>>> in=3D3D20
>>>>>  mind, it could easily be done these days.  Take for example the =
>>> =3D3D
>>>>> digital=3D3D20
>>>>>  boxes we all were buying when TV went digital.  A talking chip =
>>> =3D
>>>> could=3D3D20
>>>>>  have easily and cheaply been added.  The problem with much of =
>>> this =3D
>>>> =3D3D
>>>>> stuff=3D3D20
>>>>>  is no one gives a damn or even thinks of accessibility.  It =
>>> really =3D
>>>> has =3D3D
>
>>>>>  nothing to do with entitlement.  Look what Kenwood does with =3D
>>>> their=3D3D20
>>>>>  radios.
>>>>>  73
>>>>>  Butch
>>>>>  WA0VJR
>>>>>  Node 3148
>>>>>  Wallace, ks.
>
>
>>>>>  On Wed, 21 Mar 2012, Steve wrote:
>
>>>>>> Yep, one of the byproducts of being such an entitlement society.
>
>>>>>> Steve, K8SP
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Ed Malmgren" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:31 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Man O Man
>
>
>>>>>>> I really appreciate getting the service from Bard, Q S T and =
>>> such =3D
>>>> =3D3D
>>>>> and it is
>>>>>>> always good trying for better but have you noticed, the more we =
>>> =3D
>>>> get =3D3D
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> we want untill we sometimes are a pain in you know what.  73
>>>>>>>   Ed   K7UC
>
> -- 
> My skype is
> scott20122012
>
> Have a great day!
> 73's
> Scott
> kb0clz
>
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