Hi
Do you take calcium in conjunction with the magnesium?
Sandy
In a message dated 5/4/2011 4:59:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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Todd
Consider magnesium and insulin and the vicious cycle (positive feedback
loop)(spiral of doom).
PhD paper: A. Hanni. Magnesium and the Insulin Resistance Syndrome, makes
this conclusion:
1. Magnesium deficiency aggravates insulin resistance (i.e makes insulin
levels go up).
2. Elevated insulin levels increase the excretion of magnesium in the
urine.
1 makes 2 worse, 2 makes 1 even worse, 1 makes 2 even worse, 2 makes 1
even worse, 1 makes 2 even worse, etc.
Nasty, eh.
And it is so hard to measure magnesium status. The late Prof Mannsman made
that clear on magnesium research lab.
Some magnesium supplements have problems.
Magnesium oxide is poorly soluble. I'm not a chemist but I remember
burning magnesium and so much energy is released. It is listed as insoluble in
Scientific Tables. I really find it hard to believe it can dissolve into Mg++
even in stomach acid.
CAN ANY CHEMISTS ON THE LIST SHED ANY LIGHT ON THIS?
Magnesium Chloride. I think we all know chloride increases acid load via a
renal Cl/H+ pump. Salt sodium and chloride- a lot of problems are caused
by the chloride. Chloride will increase your acid load which is one of the 7
Foundations of Mainstream Nutrition which are addressed by the Paleo Diet.
Magnesium Aspartate. Asparate is an amino acid and neurotransmitter. It
has been implicated as an excitotoxin which can stimulate nerve cells to
death just as MSGlutamate does. (Blaylock: Excitotoxins). I've not heard of
glycine being an excitotoxin but I think it might be a neuotransmitter so I
would look it up or ask Blaylock if he will answer before taking it.
In Australia we have a manufactured water Unique Water containing
Magnesium Bicarbonate. This is very safe and effective. I don't have any connection
with them, but take it myself. Mag Bicarb is not available as a powder, it
is made by adding Magnesium Carbonate (or Hydroxide perhaps) to water, and
then carbonating it with a soda machine.
Magnesium Bicarbonate is already in solution. Magnesium Carbonate
dissolves well in stomach acid, not sure if it is used as a supplement.
I'm not an expert on magnesium, just someone who is looking for a good
magnesium supplement.
Ben Balzer
> >>As a general principle, then, since insulin resistance is the engine
of Metabolic Syndrome, it's worth spreading the word that Mg supplementation
may help. >>
>
> That REALLY could explain some issues. Thanks for mentioning it. I know
some mineral supplements are not bio-absorbable. What MG supplement do you
use? Would any health food store version work?
> -David
There are a lot of opinions about this, but the consensus seems to be that
the cheapest supplements, which are typically just magnesium oxide (the
stuff that lifeguards put on their nose), are the least absorbable. Some
sources say that Mg Chloride is preferable, and that's what's in Slo-Mag, which
is readily available. So I've been using that, in conjunction with
Bluebonnet Albion Mg glycinate.
Todd
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