Because one individual said that because we can't drive cars, this means we 
are not equal!
I hear that crap so often and it is so much an example of self loathing that 
it sickens me.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Howell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: Man O Man


WHat does your prattle have to do with this entire thread? I cannot =
believe that people will find any opportunity to drag politics into the =
discussion and in fact drag a very simple issue so far off course. This =
has nothing to do with whether your a conservative or liberal and in =
fact when it comes to having access to materials as our sighted =
counterparts I would hope folks would put aside their political =
differences and work together.
ALl this stuff your saying is nonsense to be honest and just completely =
diminishes the value of the conversation.

On Mar 21, 2012, at 11:56 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

> Hi Butch,
>=20
> It never ceases to amaze me and now of days unfortunately anger me =
that so=20
> many blind people have adopted this right wing ideology.  In fact some =
of=20
> the Tea Party radicals are in effect (see the latest Ryan budget) =
saying=20
> just that: "We have an unemployment problem; we solve it by cutting =
taxes=20
> and balancing the budget; therefore education takes a big hit; since =
it is=20
> relatively more expensive to educate blind people, they therefore take =
the=20
> biggest hit.  And so many on this list and other blind oriented lists =
seem=20
> in essence to agree.  Of course with the current state of corporate =
media,=20
> it's no wonder.  More and more people have been fed this: 'there's no =
such=20
> thing as equality and the free market determines it best' nonsense =
that they=20
> believe it! ...until something happens to one of their own.  Then they =
cry;=20
> oh why me! gee why aren't they treating me fairly.  To which when this=20=

> happens, I usually quote them back in their faces almost word for word =
of=20
> what they used to prate at me: 'Well  buddy, who said life was fair?!"
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> Now wait for some blinky stinky to quote me about the evils of Stalin =
as if=20
> he was the only alternative!
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> From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Man O Man
>=20
>=20
> This isn't even a good argument.  Of course I don't demand a driver's
> license, but I think equality is important where it is possible.  If =
we
> follow your logic, why even bother to spend the money to educate the
> blind.  We're not equal anyhow!!!  We're not asking for anything that
> isn't possible and easily done with the technology that is out there
> these days.  BTW, I did pass the driver's license eye test once and =
I've
> been total since birth, but that is another story.
> 73
> Butch
> WA0VJR
> Node 3148
> Wallace, ks.
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>=20
> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012, Ed
> Malmgren wrote:
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>> Harry, why don't you run right down and demand a drivers license =
because=20
>> you
>> deserve one.   In many cases your not even close to being  equil.  73
>> Ed   K7UC
>>=20
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Harry Brown" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21 , 2012 2:02 PM
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: Man O Man
>>=20
>>> Hi all,
>>> That is simply not the case.
>>> Disabled people deserve equality.
>>> So, the more we get, that's good, and if there's still more that we =
=3D
>>> aren't getting, we need to get that as well.
>>> Do you all know that in the netherlands, they are killing disabled =3D=

>>> babies after they're born?
>>> If we don't speak up as disabled people, it will happen here.
>>> When society doesn't value it's disabled, or elderly, it has truely =
gone=20
>>> =3D
>>> down the drain.
>>> Trippy, ac8s
>>>=20
>>> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
>>> From: Ed Malmgren=3D20
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:31 AM
>>> Subject: Man O Man
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> I really appreciate getting the service from Bard, Q S T and such =
and =3D
>>> it is=3D20
>>> always good trying for better but have you noticed, the more we get =
=3D
>>> the more=3D20
>>> we want untill we sometimes are a pain in you know what.  73
>>>     Ed   K7UC
>>=20
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