fair enough.
Does this work because swr involves calculation of reflected power?
not giving you any crap, just an adult conversation about something 
technical.

73
Colin, V A6BKX
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerry Leary" <[log in to unmask]>
To: "colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: End Fed Zep Antenna


>I press and hold the center button for a second or 2 then I hear a tone. 
>Yes I know that the center button is reflected power, but it is the most 
>sensitive to antenna adjustments.  I tune the antenna for the lowest tone 
>and I find that using either of the other buttons doesn't work as well. 
>Before you waist time giving me crap you should try it.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 12:43 AM
> Subject: Re: End Fed Zep Antenna
>
>
>> hmmm, if you press and hold the center button, you are tuning reflected
>> power, not swr.
>> You want to press and hold the right most button for SWR tuning mode.
>> The left most button for the RF output adjustment mode.
>> Not sure if you can even get a tuning tone with the center button? if so,
>> not sure why you would want to be tuning for lowest, or highest reflected
>> power?
>>
>> 73
>> Colin, V A6BKX
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gerry Leary" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: End Fed Zep Antenna
>>
>>
>>>I do it with mine.  It works really well.  I just push the center button 
>>>in
>>> until it beeps.  Then I either use the tune mode or RTTY with the mike
>>> button pushed to get the lowest tone which is the best signal.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Tom Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 4:13 PM
>>> Subject: Re: End Fed Zep Antenna
>>>
>>>
>>>>    I thought of that, and could maybe do it with the TW1, but the 
>>>> length
>>>> of
>>>> the screw-driver is what you vary to match it with frequency, so I 
>>>> don't
>>>> know how hard or easy that would be.
>>>>
>>>> May give it a try, though.
>>>>
>>>> 73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Gerry Leary" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 7:58 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: End Fed Zep Antenna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Tom, What about using a tuning aid that changes tone with output?
>>>>> Then
>>>>> you could tune your screwdriver for the highest or lowest tone which
>>>>> would
>>>>> also give you a good SWR?
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Tom Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 8:45 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: End Fed Zep Antenna
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>    Thanks, Pat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm going to continue trying to see what I can do out at the RV site.
>>>>>> My
>>>>>> problem is that there are just not many trees around, and they are 
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the wrong locations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Tom Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> To: "For blind ham radio operators" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 10:38 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: End Fed Zep Antenna
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Thanks, Pat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm going to continue trying to see what I can do out at the RV 
>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>> My
>>>>>>> problem is that there are just not many trees around, and they are 
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the wrong locations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Pat Byrne" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 8:48 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: End Fed Zep Antenna
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not to turn this into a G5RV "it's wonderful" session but I had one
>>>>>>>> 45 feet up at the center, configured as an inverted "V" and it was 
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> wonderful antennna.  France and Australia on 40 with 100 watts.  My
>>>>>>>> next location it was a bum installation and the antenna never did
>>>>>>>> particularly well.  And now I have the W5GI Mystery Antenna, a
>>>>>>>> modified G5RV at 35 or so feet and I am very well pleased with its
>>>>>>>> performance.
>>>>>>>> So Tom, you could do a whole lot worse if you can get up in the air 
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> bit.
>>>>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>>>> Pat, K9JAUAt 05:58 AM 7/2/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
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