Well said, Buddy.  That's why I spend most of my operating time on the CW 
bands now.
Lou Kolb
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Buddy Brannan" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: License Renewal?


> Trippy,
>
> I think I get why they call you Trippy, because, like, you're way, way =
> out there man.=20
>
> First of all, this isn't ham radio, it's an Email list. Fortunately, we =
> don't have to ID every 10 minutes on Email lists, or anything else like =
> that. If anything, we should use the "lingo" of Internet culture, since =
> this is the Internet. But all of that is pretty moot anyhow.
>
> As for we should "talk the ham radio lingo" and "people who don't should =
> be confronted", jeez, I dunno, but I think you're in a different hobby =
> than I am.=20
>
> The only thing incumbent upon hams is that we follow the rules set forth =
> for us by our governing boies and international law. That's it. It is =
> also incumbent upon us to comport ourselves in civil fashion, especially =
> if we want kids to get involved. If anything, we should probably avoid =
> as much jargon as possible, although some of it is just culture. Jargon =
> for its own sake is just silly and pretentious. Basically, we follow =
> country specific and international regulations an we don't act like =
> assholes. That's pretty much the deal.=20
>
> That's all.=20
>
> It is not your place, or for that matter, anyone else's, to correct =
> someone on the air for what you perceive to be operating deficiencies.=20=
>
>
> But here's the biggest thing.
>
> Ham radio's supposed to be fun. Remember that? Fun? It's, like, what =
> you're supposed to do with a hobby. Have fun. If it isn't fun, then stop =
> doing it. Yes, we need to not be assholes on the air. Yes, we need to =
> conduct ourselves with a certain amount of decorum, so that we present =
> our hobby as one that's friendly and welcoming to all kinds of people, =
> young and old. But once it becomes so rigid that a "73's" is a hanging =
> offense, it isn't fun anymore.=20
>
> Sheesh. I never hear this kind of stuff on the cw bands. I think I'll =
> stay there.
>
> 73rd's, and over and out,
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>
>
>
> On Jun 7, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Harry Brown <[log in to unmask]> =
> wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>> I'm not getting lost!
>> Look folks, if we're ham operators, then let's talk like ham radio =3D
>> operators.
>> I don't know how you all feel, but what really bugs me as well is, =
> when =3D
>> we're on the air, and hams, not as much newbees, but hams who have =
> been =3D
>> hams for God knows how long, don't act like it, those people should be =
> =3D
>> confronted.
>> Even though we're not on the air, at the moment, it's still important, =
> =3D
>> that we use the ham lingo.
>> This 73s crap is not ham like.
>> 73,
>> Trippy, ac8s
>>  ----- Original Message -----=3D20
>>  From: Steve=3D20
>>  To: [log in to unmask]
>>  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:01 PM
>>  Subject: Re: License Renewal?
>>=20
>>=20
>>  Hey Harry,=3D20
>>=20
>>  Get lost.
>>=20
>>  ----- Original Message -----=3D20
>>  From: Harry Brown=3D20
>>  To: [log in to unmask]
>>  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 2:38 PM
>>  Subject: Re: License Renewal?
>>=20
>>=20
>>  HI all,
>>  Please, can we stop with the 73's?
>>  We're suppose to be hams here, not chicken banders.
>>  I'm not alone, when it comes to that, either.
>>  A very well known ham, nationally, has this pet peeve as well, and I =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>>  also do.
>>  This is not cb, this is ham radio, and if you're gonna be a ham, talk =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>>  the talk!
>>  73,
>>  Trippy, ac8s
>>    ----- Original Message -----=3D3D20
>>    From: Howard, W A 9 Y B W=3D3D20
>>    To: [log in to unmask]
>>    Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 8:38 AM
>>    Subject: License Renewal?
>>=20
>>=20
>>    Hi Howard,
>>=20
>>    This is Howard #3.
>>=20
>>    About 4 years ago I renewed my license on the FCC website and I =3D
>> didn't =3D3D
>>  =3D3D3D
>>    have=3D3D3D20
>>    any trouble.  There site is very accessible.
>>=20
>>    Before you can use their Universal Licensing System, you need to =
> get =3D
>> =3D3D
>>  an =3D3D3D
>>    ID=3D3D3D20
>>    number from them.  This also can be done online and the number will =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>>  be=3D3D3D20
>>    e-mailed to you immediately.
>>=20
>>    If you are reasonably proficient at filling out forms online, this =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>>  whole =3D3D3D
>>=20
>>    process can be completed in less than half an hour at most.
>>=20
>>    On a scale of 1 (easy) to 10 (hard) this exercise  is about a 3 in =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>>  my=3D3D3D20
>>    opinion.
>>=20
>>    The hardest thing is to figure out what website to go to.
>>=20
>>    If anyone is interested, I will look up the address and post it =3D
>> here.
>>=20
>>    If you are able to get an Amateur license than you are smart enough =
> =3D
>> to =3D3D
>>  =3D3D3D
>>    renew=3D3D3D20
>>    it independently.
>>=20
>>    73's
>>=20
>>    Howard #3, W A 9 Y B W