agreed.

On Jun 20, 2013, at 11:58 AM, Albert Ruel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi Nelson.  In the old days I used to print PDF documents then scan
them back into the computer in order to read them with Openbook, and
some time ago both Freedom Scientific and Kurzweil gave us the ability
to achieve that result without having to waste the paper.  Here are
the two processes I use.

When the file is open in Adobe I start the print process by holding
down the Control Key and pressing the letter P.  From the list of
printers that shows up I select the Freedom Import Printer, and I
think that with Kurzweil it's called the KES Printer, then I click OK.
That launches the scan and read software and begins the conversion
process.

The second way I'm able to do it is to launch Openbook then access the
PDF file by using the Open Dialog box.  Again, once I click OK the
conversion begins.

I don't believe this is akin to removing DRM, as it is merely a
simplified print and re-scan process.

Good luck.

Thx, Albert

On 6/20/13, David Hilbert Poehlman
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> no.
> 
> On Jun 20, 2013, at 11:08 AM, "Baracco, Andrew W" <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> 
> Removing DRM is illegal. Should we be talking about ways to remove DRM on
> this list?
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Albert Ruel
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:02 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] Online Ways to Change PDFs Into More Accessible
> Formats?
> 
> Openbook and Kurzweil can convert PDF files.
> 
> Thx, Albert
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2013-06-19, at 7:56 PM, Everett Gavel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ana, and all,
>> 
>> Thanks for the resources, Ana.
>> 
>> The RoboBraille service Julie recommended worked well, as long as the file
>> wasn't protected. But it's the protected ones I need converted. If it's
>> not protected, all I do is open the PDF, do a "Save As Text" (alt+f,v) to
>> save it as a text version. But it's those damnable protected ones that irk
>> me when I buy a book or report or whatever, and can't access them. If I
>> pay for it, I usually go back to the author to get it made accessible for
>> me. But the freebies, all the gazillion special reports, or freebies given
>> away to get you to subscribe. When those are protected, it's worthless.
>> 
>> Do you know if the services you mentioned are the same, or do they get
>> past the protection?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Everett
>> 
>> 
>> ----- original message -----
>>> you could convert the [pdf] document to another format by using an
>>> online conversion service like the one found here:
>>> http://document.online-convert.com/
>>> 
>>> This page will convert files into a variety of formats, so you could
>>> convert your pdf document into RTF or doc format. The document is
>>> then downloaded to your computer. You don’t have to create an account and
>>> the conversion process is free. It doesn’t work with huge documents of
>>> over 500 pages or so, you would need something like Stanza for that. If
>>> you wwant more info on Stanza, let me know.
>>> 
>>> Alternatively there are some pdf conversion tools available from
>>> webbie
>>> 
>>> http://www.webbie.org.uk/
>>> 
>>> There are 2 pdf readers available, cycle through the headings with
>>> the h key to get to the various programs. PDF reader 3 converts the
>>> pdf document into a text document when you open it, and the old
>>> Webbie 3 suite of programs contains a pdf reader which shows the document
>>> in pdf format and you can just press control N and control P to move to
>>> the next and previous page respectively. Note that it doesn’t have a
>>> search feature. For the old Webbie program suite, you can choose what
>>> programs you want to install during the installation process, you don’t
>>> have to install everything.
>>> 
>> 
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