I have met Pate tice personally. I am also using the extra class lectures
to study. I think Handihams is a wonderful organization
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Thurman" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: helpers needed
> it wouldn't be if the crap he pulls was widely known it's pretty bad =
> when the aec for wake county ares has to tell him to get the hell of the =
> frequency and do not transmit again and the repeater owners who has =
> built probbaly half the repeaters in this state has banned him and is =
> considering a lawsuit to keep him off his repeaters... it's so bad that =
> most of us with big radios pretend he does not exist and run 100w on =
> the local repeater ot make damn sure he doens't make it through
>
>
> On Dec 16, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Lou Kolb wrote:
>
>> Wow! Pretty harsh! I'm not a handihams member but, judging by what =
> I've=20
>> read on this list from folks i have a great deal of respect for, I'm=20=
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>> guessing your opinion will be in the minority. Lou
>> Lou kolb
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>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Michael Thurman" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 1:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: helpers needed
>>=20
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>>> hanihams is a total joke they are useless for anything except a =3D
>>> discount for buying study materials they dont even give you the free =
> =3D
>>> audio lecture series for download anymore as a member no wonder =
> they =3D
>>> are so hard up for membership! handihams is completely irrelevant to =
> =3D
>>> anyone that has an extra class license,a s even their op skills =
> classes =3D
>>> are pathetic beginner junk last time I looekd into it not only have =
> I =3D
>>> droped them years ago, but my radio club no longer supports them =
> based =3D
>>> on a jerk they GAVE a license to and I say gave I mean gave this =
> jerk =3D
>>> is a general and he doens't knwo which end of the radio to talk into =
> he =3D
>>> wanted to know why he couldn't use his mag mount he uses on 2 meters =
> to =3D
>>> talk on hf he wipe sou tnets transmits on top of skywarn nets =
> during =3D
>>> tornado warnings ect total worthless crap his callsign is ki4ren =
> and =3D
>>> that's what handihams is turnng out for licensees now apparently =3D
>>> someone who so oviously has NO CLUE couldn't have passed the test =
> unless =3D
>>> he was given LOTS of help and probably givent he answers how =
> reliable =3D
>>> are the ve people there there whent he handiham members pay over a =3D=
>
>>> grand to go to that camp and that's just to handihams NOT their =3D
>>> transportation costs.. sounds like buying a license to me
>>> I remember when handihams used to be a worthwile organization and =
> used =3D
>>> to provide real help. I remember when i didn't have a rig I couldn't =
> get =3D
>>> to use anything formthem yet they always talk abotu the radio loan =3D=
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>>> program it was nonexistant for me when I needed it
>>>=20
>>> On Dec 16, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Richard Fiorello wrote:
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>>>> Hi;
>>>> Just so folks don't feel alone, moved to this house four years =
> ago.=3D20
>>>> That spring got in contact with most radio clubs and said I would=20
>>>> love=3D20=3D
>>>=20
>>>> help with a vertical or dipole. Didn't get much reply. Took a cab=20=
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>>>> to=3D20=3D
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>>>> one of the larger clubs and the president drove me home and said to =
> =3D
>>> his=3D20
>>>> friends that he would catch up with them for coffee after he dropped =
> =3D
>>> me=3D20
>>>> off. Wondered why I wasn't invited to the party. He also =
> suggested=3D20=3D
>>>=20
>>>> that there was a club much closer to my home that I should check =
> out.=3D20=3D
>>>=20
>>>> Would that have happened to a new potential non disabled member?
>>>> Checked out the closer club and they did help me put up a hf9v in =3D
>>> 2010.=3D20
>>>> They were going to stop back and finish the job. 18 months later=3D20
>>>> nothing and I keep going to meetings and they keep saying one of=20
>>>> these=3D20=3D
>>>=20
>>>> days. Initially the antenna had to come down to be re-tuned. It=3D20=
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>>>> resonates quite nicely on 27 MHz. There were three people working =
> on=3D20=3D
>>>=20
>>>> the job, one had never touched an antenna in her life, on was also=20=
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>>>> new=3D20=3D
>>>=20
>>>> and one was the president who is a ve but has no home station.
>>>> As for arr, back in the 1980s there was a local ham store that would =
> =3D
>>> put=3D20
>>>> up antennas for a price. It was wonderful, no need to beg.=3D20
>>>> Unfortunately I had unbelievable tvi problems. One neighbor =3D
>>> threatened=3D20
>>>> legal action. I contacted arrl and asked if they had anyone in the =
> =3D
>>> area=3D20
>>>> who might help put up something less likely to interfere. They =
> sent=3D20=3D
>>>=20
>>>> over a wonderful guy that actually worked with my dad 20 years ago =3D=
>
>>> only=3D20
>>>> problem was he was in his 80s. Thinking back he could have taught =
> me =3D
>>> a=3D20
>>>> lot even if nobody climbed.
>>>> Contacted arrl again when I moved to this qth in 2008 and got a =
> reply=3D20=3D
>>>=20
>>>> that the person in charge of this area knew just where I lived=20
>>>> because=3D20=3D
>>>=20
>>>> he had grandparents in the area. Sounded very hopeful but that was =
> =3D
>>> the=3D20
>>>> last I heard.
>>>> I guess my conclusion after rambling is if there is a competent-ant =
> =3D
>>> ham!=3D20
>>>> store in the area who will do antenna work its worth every penny. =3D=
>
>>> Club=3D20
>>>> folks, especially older ones might be very helpful in advising what=20=
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>>>> to=3D20=3D
>>>=20
>>>> put up. I went through two miniquads each lasted about a year. =
> Then=3D20=3D
>>>=20
>>>> there were my adventures with the r8. Durable is just as important=20=
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>>>> as=3D20=3D
>>>=20
>>>> performance.
>>>> Also finding eager helpers is an art. Some folks seem to be very=20
>>>> good=3D20=3D
>>>=20
>>>> at and others such as yours truly are hopeless. Maybe handihams =3D
>>> should=3D20
>>>> teach a course in how best to talk your club into helping? They =
> have=3D20=3D
>>>=20
>>>> suggested lots of food and beer and make sure you have every =3D
>>> imaginable=3D20
>>>> part but I think there may be more to it.
>>>> --=3D20
>>>> richard=20
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