Oh Joe, I will enjoy my slumberness. However, I will want you to
remind me, what you have done that is much more productive than me.
Come on, since it is coming to listing of deeds. I refuse to be
agitated or provock. I respectfully submit that, you have stand firm
against the dictator for many years and I sincerely respect that.
However, simply because we disagree of format and the path to salvage
our country does not mean we should vilify each other. Furthermore, in
nurturing our democracy, the media is crucial. If there happens to be
an issue at a media house, we should discuss it.
I join the UDP not to agree with everything, in fact to disagree with
certain things. And that is exactly what many of us have been doing.
We are a dynamic bunch, believe it or not, who question the elders
bigorously and even have stalmate with them when it matters.
We are open minded and we will continue to play our part whilst soul
searching on difficult issues like dealing with dictatorship. It is a
long struggle that you Joe will lose a lot. You are an intelligent
brain that the Gambia should benefit from, but alas, you stood out.
You could have done what my old friend Sekou Gassama is doing. He use
to drink tea in my house, now he is Jammeh's key man.
So Joe, I will not disrespect your sacrifices.
We will dwell more on our side of the story when the time is right.
For now, "Faks, let him flow in" is what is mundanely funny.
Thanks
Your brother in the struggle, a man who enjoy to be on the opposite
side of the fense with. Thanks old boy.
SUntou

On 2/3/12, Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> The way you read and understand things. Who said I was waiting for you all,
> as if I do not know your first grade laziness? Suntou, you can continue with
> your slumber. The good news here is you bunch will never waste Gambians'
> time. Even those that gave you the benefit of doubt are fed-up with your
> mediocrity. I could not help but bring your escapist mind to what Gambians
> are thinking - the plight of their fellow citizens and their abuse for the
> next five years. Kejau mentioned NA elections, but it looks like you could
> not clown on that one after your last buffoon act. As ignorant as you can
> be, you know not to start that shit with folks. Spend the next five years at
> the Bantaba or Albert Market and see if anyone is interested.
>
> Joe
>
>> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 09:57:47 +0000
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [G_L] The Sand Castle that is Foroyaa!!!! I am terribly
>> disappointed in Halifa. Haruna.
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>> Joe
>> I found you clowning here with a rather more heroic and more self
>> important stand points. I never knew you of all people will be held in
>> suspense waiting for old boy Suntou. Hey what do you know?
>> Yahya just came from your backyard, a brave son like you should have
>> organise his buddies at the airport, hotels, shoping malls, just
>> anywhere. After all, if the opposition leaders don't want to get down
>> and dirty, what stops plain speaking old Joe.
>> But it is all in here at Gambia L, hence, if you don't have someone to
>> villianise, you get sad. You cannot make anything my business, rather
>> can anyone. Me and those whom i operate with do there things with our
>> own measure.
>> Yes, I frikken well know, Joe and his cohort want some banter, take a
>> hike. You have been hiking in this forums for over ten years, what
>> have you achieve? Fuck all, so you do understand why, no one have
>> anything to explain to you.
>> Oh may be, keep waiting until your next Dakar trip, you may get some
>> courage from the Senegalese and then, who knows, you may be our next
>> accidental hero like, Camp Commander Tumba of Guinea.
>> Keep waiting.
>> Suntou
>>
>> On 2/2/12, Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> > Suntou, you bloddy well know that Gambians are waiting for your
>> > suspended
>> > animation and they will wait for eternity if they rely on you folks. Why
>> > would I have to use you to bring up discussion? To the contrary, it is
>> > an
>> > assault of our sensibilities that you folks acted the buffoon leading to
>> > the
>> > elections and when you delivered what Gambians expected from that
>> > mediocrity, you promise to fight, which is joke. Fighting is what the
>> > opposition leaders in Senegal are doing. The joke about your fight is on
>> > you
>> > all, for we all know not a darn thing is happening but Yaya's abuse.
>> > Please
>> > do not insult our sensibilities with this nonsense about Foroyaa. You
>> > all
>> > were the largest, right? The way you in particular clowned around here,
>> > where is your pride? Ain't got nothing to talk about but some silliness!
>> >
>> > Joe
>> >
>> >> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:10:15 +0000
>> >> From: [log in to unmask]
>> >> Subject: Re: [G_L] The Sand Castle that is Foroyaa!!!! I am terribly
>> >> disappointed in Halifa. Haruna.
>> >> To: [log in to unmask]
>> >>
>> >> I wonder who is burying his head and where you stand at the beach side
>> >> whilst folks are burying their head brave warrior? I have never meet
>> >> you at any affirmative action in the safe country of England but you
>> >> will always promise to surface. Secondly, Jammeh travelled to America
>> >> just a month ago, where were the paratroopers to make his stay
>> >> uncomfortable?
>> >> This is a national struggle, those whose statement matched their
>> >> intentions, not only sponsored the opposition with their wealth, but
>> >> they also play other active part. I guess, it will having nothing
>> >> important to say,  will I indulge you.
>> >>
>> >> Foroyaa will never look the other way about any issue they found
>> >> relevant for their opinion, be it family live issue, social or
>> >> political neither educational events. So who can prance about here
>> >> telling us to discuss something else?
>> >>
>> >> Of course Joe want to start a discussion which is why, he use the
>> >> Foroyaa subject. However, who is he to dictate which topic people
>> >> should say something on? If there is a problem in Foroyaa which
>> >> becomes public knowledge, why wouldn't people discuss it? Is the role
>> >> of Foroyaa not uncovering issues deem relevant for the public? The
>> >> staff at the paper want certain issues sorted in order that, they can
>> >> practise their duties properly, now the man they thought will keep his
>> >> cool in resolving that issue went bersack, isn't that a public
>> >> significant matter? If such a man as elavated he was made
>> >> categorically stated that, "Don't come to my funeral" to his
>> >> colleagues is published, I for one think that is a serious declaration
>> >> of his state of mind and a public interest matter. This is a newspaper
>> >> we are talking about, a paper that influence public opinion.
>> >>  So please, if you have nothing better to say, just be yourself.
>> >> Suntou
>> >> Suntou
>> >>
>> >> On 2/2/12, Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks Joe,
>> >> > I call it burying heads into sand dunes! Not a single talk about the
>> >> > impending NA elections due soon in The Gambia!
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> > KT
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 01:54:32 -0600
>> >> > From: [log in to unmask]
>> >> > Subject: Re: [G_L] The Sand Castle that is Foroyaa!!!! I am terribly
>> >> > disappointed in Halifa. Haruna.
>> >> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Suntou, it is as if Presidential Elections were never held in the
>> >> > Gambia
>> >> > and
>> >> > you and your associates were to come and tell the people    where you
>> >> > stand
>> >> > with accepting the results and what to do next. None of you is
>> >> > addressing
>> >> > that but would clutter our boxes with Foroyaa, Sam and Halifa, as if
>> >> > they
>> >> > are ruling and abusing Gambians. Clearly, either you folks are out of
>> >> > your
>> >> > league or have nothing to offer Gambians but waste their time. It is
>> >> > the
>> >> > aftermath of the elections stupid! Exactly what most here thought you
>> >> > folks
>> >> > were about. I guess it is back to slumber for another five years
>> >> > while
>> >> > Gambians suffer. Tell us about your damn election result stance and
>> >> > what
>> >> > you
>> >> > bunch are going to do, rather than this nonsense you guys are trying
>> >> > to
>> >> > ride. If you can't do that, then open up a soup kitchen as Gambians
>> >> > would
>> >> > need it, or get lost. It is really too stale, this game of you all's.
>> >> > The
>> >> > story is Yaya Jammeh, elections, abuse, and circumstance stupid!
>> >> > Joe
>> >> >
>> >> >> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 09:18:39 +0000
>> >> >> From: [log in to unmask]
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [G_L] The Sand Castle that is Foroyaa!!!! I am terribly
>> >> >> disappointed in Halifa. Haruna.
>> >> >> To: [log in to unmask]
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Haruna
>> >> >> You too have failed in your mission. I categorically call for your
>> >> >> mediation, but you took it lightly. Read the statement below: (Sam
>> >> >> Sarr will say: “go to Halifa”.)
>> >> >> Fabakary Ceesay: "From what you have said, we all know that formally
>> >> >> you may not be the managing editor, but you are part of those people
>> >> >> who formed this establishment. We know that Sam Sarr is the managing
>> >> >> editor, but for the past two years we all know that you acted as the
>> >> >> editor-in-chief. Most of the articles, you have the final say
>> >> >> whether
>> >> >> the article should be published or not. Sometimes we go to Sam Sarr
>> >> >> and  ask that this article has not been published, and Sam Sarr will
>> >> >> say: “go to Halifa”. So, all of us believe that you are the
>> >> >> editor-in-chief, and you have the final say. "
>> >> >>
>> >> >> At this point, "Halifa Sallah came in and said: “Fabakary, don’t
>> >> >> make
>> >> >> remarks that are derogatory. What I am saying is Sam Sarr is your
>> >> >> managing editor. What we do there has nothing to do with you people
>> >> >> as
>> >> >> employees."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Abubacarr Saidykahn: Faks, allow him to flow in.."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hence it seems all my assertions are correct to the fact that,
>> >> >> Halifa's fingerprints are all over Foroyaa's editorials passing off
>> >> >> as
>> >> >> by the 'publisher'.
>> >> >> In any case, the dialog is revealing and telling. 'Faks, allow him
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> flow in', flow in Halifa did.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It was interesting to see Seedy Ceesay of Jamano trying to give
>> >> >> alternative angle to the exchanges. This matters goes beyond
>> >> >> political
>> >> >> idolisation or holding someone in respect, it is a matter of young
>> >> >> journalist wanting to be free of interferance and disturbance whilst
>> >> >> carrying out their job accordingly.
>> >> >> I hope Foroyaa elders see that as a foundamental condition of proper
>> >> >> employee entitlement.
>> >> >> Suntou
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 1/31/12, Haruna <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I have mentioned to somebody that the day you know how to write
>> >> >> > your
>> >> >> > reports
>> >> >> > without legal implications, and do it with fairness, I have no
>> >> >> > reason
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > here, you will not see me here. So, your grievances may be
>> >> >> > legitimate
>> >> >> > grievances. It is how you put it, and to whom that matters.
>> >> >> > This time you perform an abrupt folly. Some of you are just like
>> >> >> > robots,
>> >> >> > signing something without even questioning what you are signing;
>> >> >> > without
>> >> >> > even verifying what you are signing is a fact. Essentially, this
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > situation. I believe that simply going and signing things without
>> >> >> > actually
>> >> >> > interrogating every detail you shown, I will even wonder then your
>> >> >> > reports
>> >> >> > whether they will not be checked again; because if a journalist
>> >> >> > writes
>> >> >> > something, he is writing facts. If you are writing petitioning is
>> >> >> > facts,
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > none of you can say that what I do here is making your work worse.
>> >> >> > The
>> >> >> > only
>> >> >> > thing we are telling me what other people are interfering. What
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > has
>> >> >> > got
>> >> >> > to do with me? Who am I to tell people who should come, and who
>> >> >> > shouldn’t
>> >> >> > come here? In that sense, that is my concerns that I want to
>> >> >> > discuss
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > you, that I have been gravely wrong…To put it in writing which can
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > utilized maliciously. In fact, you are putting my reputation into
>> >> >> > danger,
>> >> >> > because what you put on paper, anybody can send anywhere. The
>> >> >> > immediate
>> >> >> > thing they will say: this is what we are saying; Halifa is in fact
>> >> >> > influencing these journalists to write things in favor of PDOIS.
>> >> >> > So,
>> >> >> > these
>> >> >> > are my concerns, and I felt I did not want to hold a meeting. I
>> >> >> > called
>> >> >> > some
>> >> >> > of you to have a discussion, and you guys said it was signed by
>> >> >> > everybody,
>> >> >> > and that you will prefer for us to handle generally whereby
>> >> >> > everybody
>> >> >> > will
>> >> >> > be present. What I would have expected from anyone of you, if you
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > anything to tell me, is you come and tell me what is in you and we
>> >> >> > settle
>> >> >> > it. That is the good faith I thought that people are embodied in
>> >> >> > this
>> >> >> > institution.
>> >> >> > I want to make my last comment: I don’t want any of you sitting
>> >> >> > here,
>> >> >> > if
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > were to stand for any office, to cast a vote for me. Anybody who
>> >> >> > does
>> >> >> > or
>> >> >> > signs that document, and you go and cast a vote for me, you are a
>> >> >> > hypocrite.
>> >> >> > Even if I die, any of you who signed that document, don’t come
>> >> >> > there
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > say
>> >> >> > anything! Because you don’t believe what I believe, and therefore
>> >> >> > do
>> >> >> > your
>> >> >> > journalistic work. Not that I have any grievance against you, you
>> >> >> > know
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > people who consider me as their enemy, when they are in trouble,
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > when I stand to put myself that trouble. I will forever work, if I
>> >> >> > can
>> >> >> > do
>> >> >> > anything that you can earn so that you can earn it. The reasons
>> >> >> > why I
>> >> >> > am
>> >> >> > saying this, I want to prove to you that I am not interested in
>> >> >> > being
>> >> >> > anybody’s leader. Whether National Assembly, whether President, I
>> >> >> > am
>> >> >> > just
>> >> >> > serving a national duty. So, that is what I want to say.
>> >> >> > Abubacarr Saidykhan: Thank you very much uncle Halifa.
>> >> >> > REACTIONS TO HALIFA SALLAH’S STATEMENT
>> >> >> > Fabakary Ceesay: I think everyone of us heard what you said.
>> >> >> > At this juncture Momodou Sambou wanted to come in, and there was a
>> >> >> > unanimous
>> >> >> > agreement that he (Momodou Sambou) should go out from the meeting.
>> >> >> > He
>> >> >> > was
>> >> >> > told that he is interfering, and he was not in fact invited…Halifa
>> >> >> > Sallah
>> >> >> > intervened and said to Sambou: “Based on what we want to achieve,
>> >> >> > just
>> >> >> > allow
>> >> >> > us to achieve that”.
>> >> >> > Fabakary Ceesay: From what you have said, we all know that
>> >> >> > formally
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > may
>> >> >> > not be the managing editor, but you are part of those people who
>> >> >> > formed
>> >> >> > this
>> >> >> > establishment. We know that Sam Sarr is the managing editor, but
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > past two years we all know that you acted as the editor-in-chief.
>> >> >> > Most
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > the articles, you have the final say whether the article should be
>> >> >> > published
>> >> >> > or not. Sometimes we go to Sam Sarr and  ask that this article has
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > been
>> >> >> > published, and Sam Sarr will say: “go to Halifa”. So, all of us
>> >> >> > believe
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > you are the editor-in-chief, and you have the final say.
>> >> >> > At this point, Halifa Sallah came in and said: “Fabakary, don’t
>> >> >> > make
>> >> >> > remarks
>> >> >> > that are derogatory. What I am saying is Sam Sarr is your managing
>> >> >> > editor.
>> >> >> > What we do there has nothing to do with you people as employees.
>> >> >> > Abubacarr Saidykahn: Faks, allow him to flow in..
>> >> >> > Halifa Sallah: Just state the facts as you know them. I am saying
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > what
>> >> >> > we do there, you don’t know, and none of you knows! It can be
>> >> >> > privilege
>> >> >> > information, but what is important is Sam Sarr is your managing
>> >> >> > editor.
>> >> >> > If
>> >> >> > you want accept in food faith that I am an editorial adviser, I am
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > one to see. If you are protesting is your managing editor that you
>> >> >> > should
>> >> >> > see. The rest is between us, not between you people. If you have a
>> >> >> > particular article, and you see that something is not published,
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > when you should protest. If you protest, and see that yes want
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > published, it has to be published. That is your grievances with
>> >> >> > your
>> >> >> > managing editor. People have a right to do that in this
>> >> >> > institution.
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > seen many people who came to uncle Sam Sarr and said  that my
>> >> >> > article
>> >> >> > has
>> >> >> > not been published, let it come. Then it is published in the next
>> >> >> > instance.
>> >> >> > That relation is there, is a privilege relation. It was not
>> >> >> > happening
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > all
>> >> >> > media houses.
>> >> >> > In some media houses, if you don’t bribe people, your article will
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > published. If you are a woman, if you don’t sleep with a person, ,
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > don’t
>> >> >> > get your article published. We know what is happening in many
>> >> >> > media
>> >> >> > houses.
>> >> >> > If Sam Sarr kenw that you are that type of a person, anyway I am
>> >> >> > sure
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > will not get any information from him. People are getting
>> >> >> > privilege
>> >> >> > information because one believes that this is an open institution,
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > all
>> >> >> > of us have the same interest. The day that Sam Sarr know this has
>> >> >> > become
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > different institution (…), some even ready for destruction, I am
>> >> >> > sure
>> >> >> > Sam
>> >> >> > Sarr will be a type of managing editor that you people think that
>> >> >> > he
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > efficient. For me, I disagree with him tremendously, and if
>> >> >> > anybody
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > close
>> >> >> > there, you will know what I am saying. That all these institutions
>> >> >> > are
>> >> >> > managed in such a way, that is what we call laissez-faire.
>> >> >> > Fabakary Ceesay: We are not saying that you are interfering with
>> >> >> > our
>> >> >> > work.
>> >> >> > We did not say that. What we said is that political activities,
>> >> >> > during
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > political campaign, we all know this place has been turned into a
>> >> >> > bureau
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > the United Front. Most of their articles are in the office. We are
>> >> >> > all
>> >> >> > politicians; most of us join this institution because of our
>> >> >> > political
>> >> >> > interest, and our political affiliation; because of the objectives
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > we
>> >> >> > believe, and the ideas of PDOIS. That is why we joined.
>> >> >> > Halifa Sallah: Stop incriminating the journalists. What I am
>> >> >> > saying
>> >> >> > separate, you said separation of powers. I have put a case before
>> >> >> > you,
>> >> >> > and I
>> >> >> > can leave you to say what you want to say. The other that you are
>> >> >> > mentioning, those are things you should mention among yourselves.
>> >> >> > Fabakary Ceesay: What we said is that Halifa Sallah of PDOIS
>> >> >> > established
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > institution.
>> >> >> > Lamin Sanyang: Point of correction; it is not PDOIS, it is
>> >> >> > People’s
>> >> >> > Center.
>> >> >> >  Fabakary Ceesay: We said both; People’s center and PDOIS.
>> >> >> > Yaya Bajo came in and attempted to read the petition. Abubacarr
>> >> >> > Saidykahn
>> >> >> > reacted, and said that there was an adjusted version of the
>> >> >> > petition,
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > further urged Fabakary Ceesay to finish his reaction.
>> >> >> > Fabakary Ceesay: What we are saying is that we are not
>> >> >> > discriminating
>> >> >> > anybody coming to this place. We like that. People have been
>> >> >> > coming
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > this
>> >> >> > institution before we come here. What we are saying is that
>> >> >> > activities
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > political parties are all done here. People come here before they
>> >> >> > go
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > rallies. Sometimes you will walk into the office, and you will see
>> >> >> > all
>> >> >> > kinds
>> >> >> > of people. As far as Foroyaa is concerned, we don’t have any
>> >> >> > problem
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > that. We know that people come to you for counseling, and we also
>> >> >> > know
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > Daily Observer is the mouthpiece of the government. This
>> >> >> > institution
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > more
>> >> >> > of a political bureau than a newspaper bureau. APRC supporters do
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > go
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > Daily Observer and converge there. This is our concern. You come
>> >> >> > here;
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > don’t even have a seat. People entered into rooms until Ousman
>> >> >> > Sillah
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > to write a note on a chair to ask people to stop removing chairs
>> >> >> > from
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > office. If I am practicing my job, I will do it impartially,
>> >> >> > separated
>> >> >> > from
>> >> >> > politics. If I am into politics, I will be into politics…I will
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > allow my
>> >> >> > professional bureau to be turned into a political party. People
>> >> >> > working
>> >> >> > under that institution raised that concern. I think you should
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > take
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > in good faith as far as democracy is concerned. We all know that
>> >> >> > halifa
>> >> >> > Sallah comes to Foroyaa, and thee establishment is formed by him.
>> >> >> > We
>> >> >> > cannot
>> >> >> > distance Halifa Sallah from Foroyaa. Even though you are at
>> >> >> > People’s
>> >> >> > center,
>> >> >> > you did edit our articles. We do not have a problem in that.
>> >> >> > You see, Hamat Bah comes here; Henry Gomez comes here; all kinds
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > people
>> >> >> > with different affiliations come here. We know that Foroyaa is a
>> >> >> > place
>> >> >> > where
>> >> >> > people come and lodge their complains. We are not saying that
>> >> >> > Halifa
>> >> >> > Sallah
>> >> >> > should leave Foroyaa completely. The sacrifice you have taken on
>> >> >> > behalf
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > some of us, we know that. You specifically mentioned my name when
>> >> >> > Sam
>> >> >> > Sarr,
>> >> >> > Saidykhan and others were arrested. I was in the court room when
>> >> >> > Sarata
>> >> >> > Jabbie was granted bail, but she was taken away. I called Sarata’s
>> >> >> > family
>> >> >> > and they told that until 6 am Sarata did not join them. So, if you
>> >> >> > said
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > I did not do my investigation correctly, I will disagree. I don’t
>> >> >> > think
>> >> >> > any
>> >> >> > of us have a grievance. There are opinions that are contained in
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > document.
>> >> >> > Halifa Sallah: Confine yourself!
>> >> >> > Abubacarr Saidykhan: Article 15 of the petition that is what
>> >> >> > touches
>> >> >> > Halifa.
>> >> >> > Fabakary Ceesay: You said you will take the recommendations as
>> >> >> > hostility. 99
>> >> >> > per cent of us here are your own making. For how many years, I
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > been
>> >> >> > listening to your lectures. I started reading Foroyaa in 1994 when
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > was
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > form 3 in my High School. I started associating myself, and I am
>> >> >> > because
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > Foroyaa. I learnt a lot from Foroyaa. You are a man of divergent
>> >> >> > views.
>> >> >> > Foroyaa has been established to create a kind of society where
>> >> >> > people
>> >> >> > can
>> >> >> > express themselves freely without fair or favour. We know other
>> >> >> > people
>> >> >> > from
>> >> >> > other media houses the way they talk about their managing editors,
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > system going on. We stand straight to defend Foroyaa at anywhere.
>> >> >> > Abubacarr Saidykhan: We have 22 main articles on our petition
>> >> >> > here,
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > only that touches Halifa Sallah  is article 14 which one our main
>> >> >> > concern. I
>> >> >> > was very interested that you are only concerned with this one.
>> >> >> > Just
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > reiterate what Fabakaray Ceesay said, so many things have been
>> >> >> > raised
>> >> >> > before
>> >> >> > us here. Out of my observation, you were peeved annoyed as to why
>> >> >> > we
>> >> >> > should
>> >> >> > do these recommendations, and putting your name on a lose paper
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > might
>> >> >> > fall into any hands as you said. Factually, I can assure that this
>> >> >> > paper
>> >> >> > has
>> >> >> > not gone anywhere. In fact, it is only two copies that we have
>> >> >> > circulated so
>> >> >> > far. The only signed copies that were distributed were given to
>> >> >> > you,
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > uncle Sam Sarr. To be honest with you, and uncle Halifa there is
>> >> >> > nobody
>> >> >> > who
>> >> >> > sat with us to connive or conspire something against you. In fact,
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > meeting was held here openly; people were passing in; people were
>> >> >> > going
>> >> >> > out.
>> >> >> > It was one of the concerns deem necessary that we should put it
>> >> >> > before
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > management, that is why we put it there! I was thinking that you
>> >> >> > will
>> >> >> > tackle
>> >> >> > this issue with understanding, and not to think that people are
>> >> >> > going
>> >> >> > into
>> >> >> > another stage.
>> >> >> > During the presidential elections, there were many accusations
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > were
>> >> >> > running in and out here, and it is because of the coming of the
>> >> >> > people
>> >> >> > into
>> >> >> > this office. That is why we feel that guiding this office to
>> >> >> > entirely
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > place of journalistic work will allow us or will save us to run
>> >> >> > away
>> >> >> > from
>> >> >> > all those accusations. I have mentioned one of these accusations
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > one
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > the meetings at the NADD bureau, and those were people in the
>> >> >> > party.
>> >> >> > You
>> >> >> > know what I mean…
>> >> >> > Nobody is saying that you are interfering with our journalistic
>> >> >> > work.
>> >> >> > According to your own explanation, you’ve made proofs in some of
>> >> >> > citations
>> >> >> > that in my case that is a journalistic case. In the case of
>> >> >> > Sanyang,
>> >> >> > that is
>> >> >> > journalistic. In the case of Fabakary Ceesay, that is also
>> >> >> > journalistic.
>> >> >> > That shows to me that you are getting into things that you don’t
>> >> >> > people
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > see as the managing editor. So, we feel, even if you are not here,
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > can
>> >> >> > still be doing that, but not for people to accuse us outside that
>> >> >> > Foroyaa is
>> >> >> > mixing politics with journalism. We want to completely defend
>> >> >> > ourselves,
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > put this institution to be respected by people so that they will
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > purely journalistic. It is only journalistic work that is going in
>> >> >> > out
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > this place. This institution is yours; I have known that since
>> >> >> > before
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > started working here. In fact, you told me in one of our
>> >> >> > discussions
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > you own this institution. But from your attitude uncle Halifa if a
>> >> >> > new
>> >> >> > person or a stranger comes here, he or she will not even know that
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > own
>> >> >> > this paper. Because you have relegated yourself; you don’t show
>> >> >> > people
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > you want property. I can testify. You taught me how to know myself
>> >> >> > uncle
>> >> >> > Halifa. Section 25 of the Constitution, I learnt it from you, from
>> >> >> > your
>> >> >> > editorials that give us power to petition the President. It is the
>> >> >> > same
>> >> >> > thing that we are applying here. We are not petitioning the
>> >> >> > President.
>> >> >> > But
>> >> >> > that section, that is in the Constitution, and you taught me to
>> >> >> > know,
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > is what we are doing here. We were thinking that when put this
>> >> >> > before
>> >> >> > you,
>> >> >> > you would have been laughing. In fact, being inspired by our
>> >> >> > activity
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > even you are far away from here, you will believe that these
>> >> >> > people
>> >> >> > can
>> >> >> > do
>> >> >> > something in my absence.
>> >> >> > If you should say to us that even if you die we should not go
>> >> >> > there
>> >> >> > sand
>> >> >> > say
>> >> >> > anything. Then that means, you have taken this issue to a level
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > we
>> >> >> > never expected. I have never, ever expected that you will say this
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > us. I
>> >> >> > was so electrified when you mentioned that.
>> >> >> > You advised us that journalist must be independent, neutral and
>> >> >> > must
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > take side. It is your responsibility to tell us, even if it is an
>> >> >> > accusation, that what we are saying is not the case. To tell us
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > frivolous conspiring, that was not what we have expected.The only
>> >> >> > area
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > concerns you Uncle Halifa is on article 15 of this recommendation,
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > there
>> >> >> > is nobody who can clarify this issue for us more than you. Uncle
>> >> >> > Sam
>> >> >> > cannot
>> >> >> > elaborate on this issue and you have succinctly elucidated during
>> >> >> > your
>> >> >> > statement that you are not interfering with our work. I think that
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > area that you should have drawn the cotton. And among us here no
>> >> >> > one
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > interested in conspiring against you whether in public or private.
>> >> >> > But
>> >> >> > we
>> >> >> > cannot also be use like tools by anybody as well.
>> >> >> > Lamin Sanyang…This meeting is to engage the management about the
>> >> >> > issue
>> >> >> > which
>> >> >> > I feel is very necessary. Like you always said that uncle Halifa
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > like
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > conscience to the nation you have been engaging the president and
>> >> >> > other
>> >> >> > people. So I feel if we as reporters of Foroyaa should make the
>> >> >> > same
>> >> >> > thing
>> >> >> > why thinking that is hostility or frivolous. I don’t think that is
>> >> >> > it.
>> >> >> > This
>> >> >> > is our opinion and we all have the right to our opinions. About
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > Tax
>> >> >> > Commission, I was the one who was at the tax commission. Mr. Fafa
>> >> >> > Mbye
>> >> >> > was
>> >> >> > at the commission and was asked about his tax payments for 2011,
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > was
>> >> >> > further told by the state counsel that he has defaulted which he
>> >> >> > has
>> >> >> > accepted. So that is why I put that headline that he has
>> >> >> > defaulted.
>> >> >> > Pateh Beldeh… I want to start with as Uncle Halifa has said.
>> >> >> > Definitely
>> >> >> > we
>> >> >> > are proud of Halifa and I think each and every one of us is proud
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > what
>> >> >> > PDOIS generally not even foroyaa. Foroyaa is an organ of PDOIS. I
>> >> >> > think
>> >> >> > we
>> >> >> > discuss this, we believe in this and most of us know this. We are
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > saying
>> >> >> > anybody who is at PDOIS should not be attached to Foroyaa we are
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > saying
>> >> >> > that. We are saying anything of political issues should be address
>> >> >> > at
>> >> >> > people’s center. Once you are here you are putting on Foroyaa
>> >> >> > Uniform
>> >> >> > this
>> >> >> > we are saying. Once going for political issues you should put on
>> >> >> > political
>> >> >> > uniform and then we go to people’s center and address it there. As
>> >> >> > far
>> >> >> > as my
>> >> >> > understanding is concern, I am a journalist and a politician. And
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > believe
>> >> >> > that uncle Halifa should be proud of us. Halifa some of us as he
>> >> >> > said
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > we were in the dustbin. He has help us to be part of the society
>> >> >> > then
>> >> >> > we
>> >> >> > should be proud of that and then he should never repeat this
>> >> >> > because
>> >> >> > he
>> >> >> > has
>> >> >> > done it for the sake of Allah and people have recognize his job.
>> >> >> > The
>> >> >> > whole
>> >> >> > world respected Halifa and the whole world respected PDOIS no
>> >> >> > matter
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > are
>> >> >> > from which party in this country. And no matters from which media
>> >> >> > house,
>> >> >> > if
>> >> >> > you meet with a Foroyaa reporter you have to give regard to the
>> >> >> > person.
>> >> >> > No
>> >> >> > matter the challenges we face, we respect the editorial board of
>> >> >> > Foroyaa
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> > it does not mean that we should not have the sake to complain to
>> >> >> > them
>> >> >> > and if
>> >> >> > that is case then what we learn here is meaningless. Some of us
>> >> >> > can
>> >> >> > sit
>> >> >> > here
>> >> >> > and look at halifa for the whole day without realizing it. I
>> >> >> > remember
>> >> >> > sitting with him while fasting but I cannot even remember that I
>> >> >> > was
>> >> >> > fasting
>> >> >> > just because of the love I have for him. We also come here and
>> >> >> > encounter
>> >> >> > lots of difficulties but we are taking it in good faith.
>> >> >> > Musa Barrow… We describe this as a sanctuary for liberty and a
>> >> >> > bastion
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > freedom. So essentially the spirit behind this letter I don’t it
>> >> >> > meant
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > offend anyone because as we all know we are all been here working.
>> >> >> > Is
>> >> >> > just a
>> >> >> > suggestion that we are making because so often especially during
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > campaigns some of my colleagues will complain that the office is
>> >> >> > washed
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > so many people using the chairs. So it was out of that concern
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > this
>> >> >> > recommendation was made. There is no element of hostility in this.
>> >> >> > Here
>> >> >> > we
>> >> >> > are brothers and sisters and I do think being hostile to one
>> >> >> > another
>> >> >> > will
>> >> >> > not in anyway help our course.
>> >> >> > Yaya Bajo.. What I want to say with the reaction of Halifa to this
>> >> >> > particular point. I think you should explain to us the answer of
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > first
>> >> >> > question you pose to us in the beginning. But to tell people that
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > do
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > want people to vote for you and stuffs like that has taken me by
>> >> >> > surprise
>> >> >> > definitely speaking. Because I think you are a leader and you
>> >> >> > should
>> >> >> > accept
>> >> >> > constructive criticism.
>> >> >> > Mamadou Dem... I think my colleagues have said it all. We don know
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > person Sam Sarr is answerable to because this is the third time we
>> >> >> > are
>> >> >> > having such kind of a meeting and all that use to say is “Yes I
>> >> >> > will
>> >> >> > look
>> >> >> > into it.” This is all he says and at the end of the day nothing
>> >> >> > will
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > implemented. We do not who is answerable to.
>> >> >> > Ania Gaye.. I wan to talk on the political issue. Most of the time
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > will
>> >> >> > fine people sitting here and all they discuss is politics which is
>> >> >> > reducing
>> >> >> > our character. We cannot do our journalistic work the way we
>> >> >> > should
>> >> >> > it.
>> >> >> > They
>> >> >> > will all converge here talking about politics and nothing else and
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > feel
>> >> >> > that is not going to secure us as journalist and some of them
>> >> >> > could
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > NIAs.
>> >> >> > Lamin Njie/ Accountant…For me my concern is that you people
>> >> >> > misunderstood
>> >> >> > uncle halifa. In any society there must be a chain work and
>> >> >> > commandments. If
>> >> >> > you have any problem you go the editors first and to the managing
>> >> >> > editor
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > from the managing editor to uncle halifa he should be the last
>> >> >> > person
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > should see. If these people cannot solve your problem, among
>> >> >> > yourself
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > select one person to go to them. For me I am very much
>> >> >> > disappointed.
>> >> >> > There
>> >> >> > should be a chain of command and you don’t have to by past your
>> >> >> > boss.
>> >> >> > You
>> >> >> > know writing is very dangerous, you don’t know that?  At this
>> >> >> > juncture
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > strikers could not control laughing and Mr. Sallah intervenes by
>> >> >> > saying
>> >> >> > “You
>> >> >> > guys are not serious he is talking and you are laughing.” The
>> >> >> > accountant..
>> >> >> > There are lots of problems happening here without you people
>> >> >> > knowing
>> >> >> > it.
>> >> >> > Sulayman Bah… We exhausted all options before calling this meeting
>> >> >> > by
>> >> >> > writing to the management it self. You see, Uncle Sam would agree
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> > at
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > end of the day he will do nothing absolutely. i some time fine it
>> >> >> > difficult
>> >> >> > to write my article and when I told uncle Sam he will show me
>> >> >> > disinterest.
>> >> >> > When the petition was served the way you approach me uncle halifa
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > would
>> >> >> > describe that as an attack because the whole thing is jointly
>> >> >> > written
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > every reporter agree to it. You went to the point saying that you
>> >> >> > will
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > tolerate none science. And you always talk about democracy and
>> >> >> > democracy
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > all about divergent views and people must express their opinions
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > there
>> >> >> > is no where were people will have the same opinions on matters.
>> >> >> > Awa Bah… The difficulty we faced outside is that the moments you
>> >> >> > introduce
>> >> >> > yourself as a Foroyaa reporter people see you as an opposition
>> >> >> > journalist
>> >> >> > directly linked with politics. This is what is affecting us as
>> >> >> > journalist of
>> >> >> > this paper. Some people fine it difficult to send their kids to
>> >> >> > come
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > Fororyaa just because of the too much political ideology mixed
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > journalism.  This is not done out of anger. That is what I have to
>> >> >> > say.
>> >> >> > Sarjo Camara… Uncle Halifa, I think this move is a very
>> >> >> > progressive
>> >> >> > move
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > me.
>> >> >> > And if at all it was a reactionary move I think it would have not
>> >> >> > come
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > this way. You are a roll model to all of us and the reason is to
>> >> >> > bring a
>> >> >> > breach between our work and politics. This is the only point we
>> >> >> > feel
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > should come in and clarify. We have been calling meetings in your
>> >> >> > absence
>> >> >> > and is the same thing we discuss. You know people better than all
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > us
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > you can even read the mines of others.  None of have the interest
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > living
>> >> >> > this office for another place. I personally I know what foroyaa
>> >> >> > did
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > me
>> >> >> > so I will not exchange foroyaa for any other institution. Please,
>> >> >> > take
>> >> >> > every
>> >> >> > thing in good faith and give us your own opinion the way we should
>> >> >> > work
>> >> >> > positively to achieve our aims and objectives of this
>> >> >> > organization.
>> >> >> > Halifa Sallah.. Thank you very much.
>> >> >> > Mamadou Sambou… Wanted to come in to say something but
>> >> >> > unfortunately
>> >> >> > was
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > allowed by the strikers to utter a word and was further by Halifa
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > calm
>> >> >> > down.
>> >> >> > Reporters’ Recommendation
>> >> >> > 1. General meeting for staff and other office sections on regular
>> >> >> > basis.
>> >> >> > 2.  Inconsistency with food provision.
>> >> >> > 3. Salary increment: increment for payment for articles. Provision
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > books,
>> >> >> > pens, and other working materials.
>> >> >> > 3. Provision of standard and workable computers.
>> >> >> > 4. Refurbishion of the reporters’ place of work.
>> >> >> > 5. Increment of salary status of freelance journalists according
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > Gambia Press Union’s recommendations.
>> >> >> > 6. Late payment of salaries.
>> >> >> > 8. Reaching a contract agreement before commencement of work.
>> >> >> > 9. Handing of appointment letters including employment packages
>> >> >> > i.e.:
>> >> >> > entitlement. Social security membership cards and payment of
>> >> >> > social
>> >> >> > security
>> >> >> > dues.
>> >> >> > 10. Adjustment of press cards. Eg the Gambia before institution
>> >> >> > name
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > emboldening of the ‘Foroyaa’ name.
>> >> >> > 11. Approval of fares and late coming of approving editors.
>> >> >> > 12. Transport allowances to reporters.
>> >> >> > 13. Quality of editing of the articles with presentable but
>> >> >> > captivating
>> >> >> > captions
>> >> >> > 14. We need sub-editors on courts, sports and other sectors: news
>> >> >> > editors
>> >> >> > and proof-readers from our midst.
>> >> >> > 15. We recommend that Halifa Sallah of people’s Center move to the
>> >> >> > NADD
>> >> >> > office to create enough room for reporters. The besieging of the
>> >> >> > office
>> >> >> > premises by politicians is of a great concern. We recommend that
>> >> >> > there
>> >> >> > be a
>> >> >> > clear separation of politics from journalism.
>> >> >> > 16. We have noticed that food is not provided since the appointed
>> >> >> > cook
>> >> >> > has
>> >> >> > been bed-ridden by an ailment and we recommend that a substitute
>> >> >> > cook
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > hired in case such circumstance occurs.
>> >> >> > 17. We call for an immediate but speedy staffing of reporters who
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > served for more than two years.
>> >> >> > 18. We recommend that reporters be upgraded PROFESSIONALLY.
>> >> >> > 19. Increment of Columns pay/ informing of staff over issues of
>> >> >> > delay
>> >> >> > payment of salaries IF there is any such problem. We demand
>> >> >> > reporters
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > giving reasonable explanation supposedly if the management is
>> >> >> > facing
>> >> >> > financial hiccups.
>> >> >> > 20. We are calling for a general meeting with the entire
>> >> >> > management
>> >> >> > by
>> >> >> > FRIDAY 16th, after the Friday prayers.
>> >> >> > 21. The printing of the newspapers ranging from pictures, should
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > given
>> >> >> > due consideration.
>> >> >> > 22. Since the paper is the oldest in the country, we recommend
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > comes
>> >> >> > on a daily basis.
>> >> >> > IF THESE ABOVE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE NOT GIVEN DUE AND URGENT
>> >> >> > CONSIDERATION BY
>> >> >> > 15th JANUARY 2012, WE WILL EMBARK ON A SIT-DOWN STRIKE.
>> >> >> > Sign:
>> >> >> > Abubacarr Saidykhan……………………………………
>> >> >> > Sulayman Bah……………………………..
>> >> >> > Fabakary B. Ceesay………………………………………..
>> >> >> > Musa Barrow
>> >> >> > Pateh Baldeh……………………………………………….
>> >> >> > Mamadou Dem…………………………………………………
>> >> >> > Sarjo Camara ……………………………………………..
>> >> >> > Lamin Sanyang …………………………………………
>> >> >> > Annia Gaye……………………………………………
>> >> >> > Amie Sanneh…………………………………..
>> >> >> > Kebba Camara …………………………..
>> >> >> > Awa B Bah ………………………………….
>> >> >> > Abdoulie Dibba …………………………….
>> >> >> > Madiba Singhateh ……………………….
>> >> >> > Mariama Ceesay………………………
>> >> >> > Lamin Fatty…………………………..
>> >> >> > Yaya Bajo……………………………..
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
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