Hi Everyone,
Angel, I do agree with you completely!
I couldn't have said it as well as you did.
Thanks much.
Many Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
"I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.
At 11:59 AM 3/11/2014, you wrote:
>I wasn't being cynical nor sarcastic. I have never been sarcastic
>in my life. As I believe sarcasm is hateful and springs from a
>heart filled with hate. I said that because if the government has
>its way, more of those who failed to make their opinions against a
>Godless government known wherever there is a chance for them to be
>known, there will be a lot more things for which prayer might be
>required. It is harder for Christians to be contented in a
>situation wherein their Christian way of life is threatened. I
>think if we don't discuss politics wherever Christians are gathered,
>or who write on Christian lists because such touches every
>Christian, there will be fewer and fewer places where such
>discussions will be allowed to take place. Did you know the
>government is already reading our E-mails and tweets? If one can't
>discuss politics on a Christian supportive list as is this one, how
>is one suppose to ask for prayer, as I did a while back on this
>list, that priests contracted by the government to serve the
>military be allowed to continue serving when the government was
>closed. They were forbidden to serve then, and those who needed to
>worship were forced to find outside priests off military bases to
>perform weddings and baptisms, ETC. These independent contracted
>military priests weren't even allowed by the government to volunteer
>to serve without pay during the time the government was
>closed. Isn't this political? Should I not have asked for prayer,
>and should I not have expressed on a list such as this my wonder at
>how a government could be persecuting us so? I suppose if I
>shouldn't have asked this, nor wondered at the callousness of a
>government who wouldn't even allow volunteers to officiate at a
>sacramental event, then there might not be a place on a list as this
>for me either?
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Shepherd"
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>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:30 AM
>Subject: Re: I wish Christians could stay away from politics for once!
>
>
>>Do you really wish those of us whom you may see as apathetic the
>>best, or is there a touch of cynicism and are you being sarcastic?
>>
>>Regarding where to discuss these issues, you could discuss them
>>with friends or neighbors, at church or a number of places, and
>>there are, I am sure, several Christian political lists that one
>>might join to discuss this very thing. In fact, I believe Pat
>>might know of one. There are also many news outlets where one can
>>get the news from a Christian prospective. Therefore, I continue
>>to maintain that politics has no place here if this is to be a list
>>focused on Christ and to the edification of Christian believers.
>>
>>Apathetic, never!!! My husband believes as Bev does regarding the
>>current administration; I do not! However, I do believe in
>>sensitivity to the discomfort of others as much as possible.
>>
>>I personally think Bev is wrong, but I love her and would hate to
>>see her leave the list simply because of a minority political view point.
>>
>>Jackie
>>
>>At 06:56 PM 2014-03-10, you wrote:
>>>Then I wish you all the best when you suffer as a result of what
>>>this current administration is doing. As for me, and for my
>>>house, we will stand against those who are trying to take away our
>>>religious freedom to worship, and to pay for what we choose. I
>>>will encourage you in your apathetic reaction to the threat
>>>Christians face. When home schools are prohibited, and when all
>>>reference to our most holy faiths is removed from schools. As it
>>>is being done, and has been since prayer was removed from public
>>>schools. I dare say children today don't even know the second
>>>verse of "my country t'is of thee" Because the first line says
>>>"Our father God to thee, author of liberty." I use to sing that
>>>song, both verses in public school. Would you believe? If we
>>>don't discuss such things on a list such as this, where on earth
>>>are we to discuss them?
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Shepherd"
>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 6:13 PM
>>>Subject: Re: I wish Christians could stay away from politics for once!
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am reluctantly compelled to agree with Bev, not about the
>>>>politics, but that it should not be a topic of discussion on the
>>>>list. It is my opinion that the list could be used for
>>>>encouragement, prayer, topics of a scriptural nature, and Christ
>>>>centered discussions and devotional material. Messages I've seen,
>>>>some on the list, but most off, are nothing but hate filled
>>>>government/President bashing tyrades; and I wonder how many
>>>>people did their homework to see if these were true! It
>>>>certainly isn't a very good example of loving Christians; and I
>>>>wonder how much it shows that we trust and leave all things to
>>>>the Lord. Romans 8:28 says this much better than I ever could.
>>>>
>>>>Jackie
>>>>At 02:28 PM 2014-03-10, you wrote:
>>>>>Hi All!
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, I guess my subject line says what's on my mind.For several
>>>>>years, now I've deliberately stayed away from most Christian
>>>>>groups, due to the disappointment I always experience because
>>>>>I'm so tired of politics always coming up as the topic. I so
>>>>>wish Christians could get back to discussing scripture and
>>>>>talking about the Lord and quit all the bashing, hatred, fear
>>>>>and hostility for our president and our government. To be
>>>>>honest, even though I am a professing Christian, this whole
>>>>>politic thing has caused me to want to stay away from most
>>>>>Christian circles for the past I don't know how many years, yet,
>>>>>I hate doing that as well, because I miss sharing with other
>>>>>Christians about our Lord Jesus .
>>>>>
>>>>>Bev
>>>>
>>>>Thanks much.
>>>>
>>>>Many Blessings,
>>>>
>>>>Pat Ferguson
>>>>"I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.
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