Thanks again again for HandiHam.

John  KC2QJB


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 6:41 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: How about a step back and a deep breath

Very concise Pat.  Thanks.
The other Pat, K9JAUAt 04:29 PM 12/20/2011, you wrote:
>Hello, list -
>
>This thread has reached its conclusion, but just to summarize and clear 
>things up a bit, we do have audio lectures in MP3 format for all the 
>licensing levels.  They are a member service, but a pretty good deal as 
>a Handiham membership is only $12/year.  If we run into folks who don't 
>have Internet access, we are usually able to make MP3 compact disks or 
>even 4-track tapes by special order at low cost.  In addition, we have 
>taken over the management of the W4MQ remote base software and hope to 
>make it more accessible, although it is quite usable now. It is mainly 
>the installation process that is the most challenging for blind users.  
>Also available to members are the two internet remote base stations 
>W0EQO and W0ZSW.  They are both Kenwood TS-480's with VGS1 modules. 
>Access to them 24/7 for transmit and receive is part of the $12 
>membership.  By comparison, the W7DXX remote base is an independent 
>Internet remote base station with an annual membership fee of $100.  
>Admittedly our stations are not that same quality level for DX, but 
>they are still good services and not a bad deal for $12/year.  Even at 
>$100, the W7DXX station is a very reasonable service, but $12?  For two 
>stations? Wow!  We also offer our members magazine digests - lots of 
>audio for our blind members at about the same time print readers are
getting the same magazines in the mail instead of months later via NLS.
>Then there is the Manuals directory, where audio tutorials help you 
>learn your radio.
>
>Of course times do change, and we do sometimes hear complaints about 
>the lack of tape study materials.  Several years ago I decided that 
>investing in digital on line delivery was a better bet because tape 
>cassette use has been declining past the point of critical mass to keep 
>production running.  It can cost over $500 to rehab a single worn tape
duplicator, so this is really
>a no-brainer.   But I do admit that a person who does not use a computer
may
>not realize as much value to a Handiham membership as they once might have
>before the Internet.   Even as the budget has tightened, we have still
>managed to deliver more audio than ever, faster, with better overall 
>quality, and vastly cheaper than we ever could with tapes.  The 
>Internet has also made it much easier to interact with members and 
>non-members who need questions answered.  This very list is often the 
>go-to place for my research!
>
>We still offer the Radio Camp, too.
>
>So it isn't so much that *only* Gordo's CD's are available - they are, 
>of course, and many people love them.  It's just that we deliver a lot 
>more on line than we used to and that is where the main user value 
>lies.  It's just crazy the way I have turned into an IT guy over the 
>20+ years I've been working for the Handihams.  When I started, our 
>files were note cards in wooden drawers and our highest tech gadget was 
>an IBM Selectric.  Now I have to know Drupal and be able to edit HTML.  
>It really is a new world, and we have to adapt.
>
>Check out a few resources:
>
>1. The Handiham daily net, Echolink node 494492, IRLP 9008, or WIRES 1427.
>11:00 AM CST daily.
>2. The W4MQ Remote Base software pages:
>http://handiham.org/local/blind/w4mq_remote_base_software.htm
>3. Control W0EQO for receive via Echolink.  Look for W0EQO-L and connect.
>Use the text box to change mode and frequency. (Disabled for text box 
>control when a control op is running it via the W4MQ software, and you 
>can't hear any audio when the control op transmits, of course.) 4. 
>Learn about the Kenwood TS480 from Joe, N3AIN.  Feel free to check out 
>the other offerings:
>http://handiham.org/manuals/Kenwood/TS480/ts480_n3ain/
>
>Happy holidays, everyone!
>
>73,
>Pat
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Patrick Tice
>[log in to unmask]
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: For blind ham radio operators 
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>On Behalf Of Howard, W A 9 Y B W
>Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 1:26 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: How about a step back and a deep breath
>
>Hi Michael,
>
>The lectures are not available to just the casual visitor to the 
>Handi-Ham website, like your genius friend.  You have to be a MEMBER of 
>Handi-Hams to gain access to them.
>
>73's
>
>Howard #3
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael Thurman" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 11:35 AM
>Subject: Re: How about a step back and a deep breath
>
>
> > unfortunatelythe only oos around here that I know of are redneck 
> > loosers = and hang out on the only repeater that worthless twit is 
> > welcome on... = the same OO that sent me a note bitching because he 
> > didn't like the fact = that I was using a mbile radio and didn't 
> > have it at full power when i = lived a mile from the repeater and 5w 
> > and an ourdoor antenna was already = full quieting. he said I asn't 
> > using full jars power because he couldn't = hear me on the input 10 
> > miles away wit his handheld. this is the same = guy who showed up to 
> > the club meting with his pants and underwear slid = down so far he 
> > gave plumbers a good reputation for  dress code. some = "oficial 
> > observer" who complainsbecause you follow the fcc rules and = don't 
> > run 50w to talk a mile to the repeater on a 2000 ft tower you are = 
> > line of sight with. and yes  visual line of sight with the repeater 
> > = antennas as cinformed by my girlfriend who is a ham and used 
> > binoculars = while standing in the yard :)  these are the kind that 
> > become an OO?  my = how the standards have fallen. not to mentionthat
I'e been licensed = longer than he's been out of grade school!
> > pthetic
> > hand I'm very glad o hear that the audio lectures are there. I am 
> > not a = member anymore, but my friend who is and does tech support 
> > for a living = didn't see the lectures when he looked. and I'm sure 
> > he is capable of = navigating a webpage considering he writes html 
> > and does tech support, = not to mention all his certs which i can't 
> > remember. Perhpas the = lectures weren't up then due to an update or 
> > a problem with the site
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Gary Tillinghast wrote:
> >
> >>            Find your local OO and turn in the fellow.  Send around 
> >> a=20=
> >
> >> petition and send it to the FCC.
> >> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >> From: "Michael Thurman" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 7:06 AM
> >> Subject: Re: How about a step back and a deep breath
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >> tel you what.. you come experience what a prick this loser asshole 
> >>is =
> > =3D
> >> and see how muc you like what has happened   want proof of hat a =3D
> >> worthless op he is I'll e happy to collect calsigns of people who =
> > would =3D
> >> be more than happy to go into great detail about this supposed 
> >> general =
> > =3D
> >> class licensee who can't even figure out that 40 meters is hf=3D20  
> >>he actually was stupid enough to ay well I'l ge tmy 2m handheld =3D
> >> modified to work 40 meters   shakes my head =3D20
> >>=20
> >> On Dec 16, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Gary Tillinghast wrote:
> >>=20
> >>> prove it. put up or shut up!
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
> >>> From: "Michael Thurman" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 2:21 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: How about a step back and a deep breath
> >>> =3D20
> >>> =3D20
> >>> it isn't defaming if it's true
> >>> On Dec 16, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Pat Byrne wrote:
> >>> =3D20
> >>>> In the past twenty-four hours I've heard ARRL bashed, 
> >>>> Handihams=3D20 ripped and a couple of individuals defamed.  I 
> >>>> checked just to be=3D20=
> >
> >>>> sure and it is no longer full moon.  All of us have things that =
> > get=3D20=3D
> >>=20
> >>>> us PO.ed but lets consider the venue.  This is hardly a place 
> >>>> for=3D20=
> >
> >>>> that kind of stuff.
> >>>> Were all adults, aren't we.
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>> Pat Byrne, K9JAU=20