Mboge, Oh thanks man for the rather amazing comments. Wow, if you wish
to be sidetracked, be my guest. However, the issue remains about the
rather unpleasant outbourst of our elder, Halifa.
i again repeat that, the response from Jollow News, Yahya Dampha and
Abdoulie John are fitting, considering the fact that, all of them took
our edler Halifa as guiding star. It happens that the Star just
wouldn't be question.
Foroyaa should open up and allow the young reporters and journalist to
have a say in how things should be run.
This is a simple matter that, Halifa could have make much grounds on.
But knowing him, he leap right in the heads of the boys. As if the
indoctrination by association hasn't make any magic effect. he lashed
out. I would want him to realise that, times have change, youths are
smart and they read and follow global and social events.

Mboge, as i mention to you in previcous postings, I am happy with any
way you position yourself in the struggle. I have not made any mention
of your contributions to your belove guys. That is up to you and you
alone.
Gambians have help in private in many endevours. Haruna Darboe have
raise a lot for good causes, Maafanta the same. GPU U.S the same.
Suntou

On 2/3/12, Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Suntou,
>
> As i said earlier, you are in another league. You are way above my level.
> I am wayward and unproductive, so go forth brother with your great friends,
> those who do not scream loud about what they are sacrificing for Gambians.
> Keep the gaze as well with the new fascination at the ICC.  I am chilling
> in the fjords.  You are amazing, i hope when i grow up i be like you,
> acquiring the splendid skills for critical understanding and seeing things
> that others struggle to comprehend.  Now, allow me to be emotive and
> unproductive.  Suntou, you are one of a kind.
>
> Best of luck,
> Mboge
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 11:21 AM, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Mr Mboge
>> I have not sacrificed anything bro, I am just chilling and enjoying.
>> However, the last time I checked, the word sacrificed whenver the
>> PDOIS guys are mention is over kill. This folks all live in their
>> houses, they all live with their wife's and/or husbands, with their
>> children.
>> Who amongs them is in jail or have died in the struggle?
>> I know for certain, 100% that, Sedia Jatta is married to a girl of
>> less than 25 years. Yes, the old boy even build a house in Sutukonding
>> to relax whenever he is around town.
>> Halifa is also living at his family home I heard, with his wife.
>> Suwaibou likewise, Sam Sarr likewise.
>> What do we continue to hear, From all those afraid to look deeper into
>> the lives of this suppose ultimate sacrificial lambs, "they have
>> sacrificed".
>>
>> What about the Gambians including my Buddy Joe Sambou who cannot pass
>> the Banjul-Dakar crossing, What about the many among the brave critics
>> like Fatou Jaw who was detain and spend two years for no reason. What
>> about Pa Nderry Mbai who will be arrested upon arrival, what about
>> Bamba Laye, who will fear for his arrest, what about Bailo Jallow,
>> Yero Jallow,  The silent Barrister Chongan what about Yankuba Jambang,
>> what  about, can i go on.
>> Now come to England, how many critics of the regime can today be
>> enjoying a good legal careers, accounting careers, finance careers,
>> banking, and many other career parts. But this simple Gambians have
>> all sacrificed that by joining others in becoming critics of the
>> regime. Why should their sacrifices be any lesser than those who are
>> protected by a political party senior memberships.
>>
>> If you say someone with a sociology degree sacrifice by not taking
>> Jammeh's offers, I wonder what about others with more lucrative and
>> sellable qualifications?
>> The amount of Gambians who have sacrificed don't remind anyone about
>> what they could have gain should they accept the status quo. Foroyaa
>> is a registered business who pay its staff including Halifa, Sam and
>> others.
>> All I am saying, if they have sacrificed, then many have and continue
>> to do. Gambian brothers in U.K, U.S, Sweden, all over have a story to
>> tell too in standing against this dictatorship. Let us not because of
>> misguided emotion over look them.
>>  I salute all those brothers and sisters who because of Jammeh's
>> dictatorship are missing out in enjoying and tapping into the finaries
>> of the Gambian society.
>> Imagine how many imcompetent brothers get international appointment
>> because they compromise and worked with Jammeh only to gain experience
>> and then leave for better offers?
>> I can list scores on my finger tips, the latest being the Hague
>> Prosecutor.
>> Suntou
>> On 2/2/12, Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> > Jajeff Suntou,
>> >  .
>> > Go forth my productive brother, Gambia needs the magnificent Suntou
>> Touray,
>> > worthy son of Gambia.  You are way above the level of this  wayward and
>> > unproductive brother.
>> >
>> > Mboge
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:36 PM, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Haruna
>> >> Are you sure about that? Mboge is not bothered about nix, he
>> >> repeatedly keep stating here that, he doesn't care about what people
>> >> make of his opinions, hence, whatever he says, is perfectly fine by
>> >> me. Where he says something productive and tangible cool and where he
>> >> get emotive and wayward, cool as well. He is retired and relaxing.
>> >> The exchanges that make me laugh loud is: "Faks, let him flow in"
>> >> quiet boyish Gambian like, hilarious.
>> >> I missed the response of Mr Yahya Dampha on Joloff news earlier. The
>> >> young man wrote lots of sense, and he gave out the mentality and
>> >> mindset engraved in the 'People's Bereau'. Yahya Dampha indicated to
>> >> us that, he imbue with descipline and loyality to his former Bosses
>> >> who trespassed against him. His restraint is what i found very
>> >> commendable. You know if it was me that the elders chastise, I will
>> >> not leave any brick unturn, i will say it all, as it happen.
>> >> Yahya, I have never had any contact with you, but your maturity and
>> >> respect will actually make me invite you to England for Tea. You
>> >> controlled your disappointment and anger. That is the way to go. Some
>> >> of us will tear each other apart and score points, whilst allowing the
>> >> gossiping bandwagon to have a field day. Good on you.
>> >> As for my brother Mboge, he is sensible and articulate, the occasional
>> >> mishabs will not prompt me to say anything out of character.
>> >> Suntou
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 1/31/12, Haruna <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >  I agree with you Suntou in the main:
>> >> >
>> >> > worker rights
>> >> > press freedom
>> >> > collective bargaining
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >  These are all socialist principles and ones that Halifa would
>> naturally
>> >> > champion.
>> >> >
>> >> > The problem is that the original conflict of interest has been so
>> >> compounded
>> >> > at Foroyaa, that it has made it virtually impossible to bear on
>> sobriety
>> >> for
>> >> > the rights of journalists. And Foroyaa is a for-profit commercial
>> >> > venture
>> >> > with the proprietor cajoling the journalist's work-product to fit
>> >> political
>> >> > views and ambition.
>> >> >
>> >> > So there is not need for mediation. This is an administrative matter
>> for
>> >> the
>> >> > Gambia labor board and the registrar of companies. The journalists
>> >> > are
>> >> > virtually held hostage to political ideology.
>> >> >
>> >> > Allez. Haruna.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> > To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> > Sent: Tue, Jan 31, 2012 2:39 pm
>> >> > Subject: Re: [G_L] The Sand Castle that is Foroyaa!!!! I am terribly
>> >> > disappointed in Halifa. Haruna.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Haruna
>> >> > You too have failed in your mission. I categorically call for your
>> >> > mediation, but you took it lightly. Read the statement below: (Sam
>> >> > Sarr will say: “go to Halifa”.)
>> >> > Fabakary Ceesay: "From what you have said, we all know that formally
>> >> > you may not be the managing editor, but you are part of those people
>> >> > who formed this establishment. We know that Sam Sarr is the managing
>> >> > editor, but for the past two years we all know that you acted as the
>> >> > editor-in-chief. Most of the articles, you have the final say whether
>> >> > the article should be published or not. Sometimes we go to Sam Sarr
>> >> > and  ask that this article has not been published, and Sam Sarr will
>> >> > say: “go to Halifa”. So, all of us believe that you are the
>> >> > editor-in-chief, and you have the final say. "
>> >> >
>> >> > At this point, "Halifa Sallah came in and said: “Fabakary, don’t make
>> >> > remarks that are derogatory. What I am saying is Sam Sarr is your
>> >> > managing editor. What we do there has nothing to do with you people
>> >> > as
>> >> > employees."
>> >> >
>> >> > "Abubacarr Saidykahn: Faks, allow him to flow in.."
>> >> >
>> >> > Hence it seems all my assertions are correct to the fact that,
>> >> > Halifa's fingerprints are all over Foroyaa's editorials passing off
>> >> > as
>> >> > by the 'publisher'.
>> >> > In any case, the dialog is revealing and telling. 'Faks, allow him to
>> >> > flow in', flow in Halifa did.
>> >> >
>> >> > It was interesting to see Seedy Ceesay of Jamano trying to give
>> >> > alternative angle to the exchanges. This matters goes beyond
>> >> > political
>> >> > idolisation or holding someone in respect, it is a matter of young
>> >> > journalist wanting to be free of interferance and disturbance whilst
>> >> > carrying out their job accordingly.
>> >> > I hope Foroyaa elders see that as a foundamental condition of proper
>> >> > employee entitlement.
>> >> > Suntou
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 1/31/12, Haruna <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have mentioned to somebody that the day you know how to write your
>> >> >> reports
>> >> >> without legal implications, and do it with fairness, I have no
>> >> >> reason
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> here, you will not see me here. So, your grievances may be
>> >> >> legitimate
>> >> >> grievances. It is how you put it, and to whom that matters.
>> >> >> This time you perform an abrupt folly. Some of you are just like
>> >> >> robots,
>> >> >> signing something without even questioning what you are signing;
>> >> >> without
>> >> >> even verifying what you are signing is a fact. Essentially, this is
>> the
>> >> >> situation. I believe that simply going and signing things without
>> >> actually
>> >> >> interrogating every detail you shown, I will even wonder then your
>> >> reports
>> >> >> whether they will not be checked again; because if a journalist
>> writes
>> >> >> something, he is writing facts. If you are writing petitioning is
>> >> >> facts,
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> none of you can say that what I do here is making your work worse.
>> The
>> >> >> only
>> >> >> thing we are telling me what other people are interfering. What that
>> >> >> has
>> >> >> got
>> >> >> to do with me? Who am I to tell people who should come, and who
>> >> shouldn’t
>> >> >> come here? In that sense, that is my concerns that I want to discuss
>> >> with
>> >> >> you, that I have been gravely wrong…To put it in writing which can
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> utilized maliciously. In fact, you are putting my reputation into
>> >> danger,
>> >> >> because what you put on paper, anybody can send anywhere. The
>> immediate
>> >> >> thing they will say: this is what we are saying; Halifa is in fact
>> >> >> influencing these journalists to write things in favor of PDOIS. So,
>> >> these
>> >> >> are my concerns, and I felt I did not want to hold a meeting. I
>> called
>> >> >> some
>> >> >> of you to have a discussion, and you guys said it was signed by
>> >> everybody,
>> >> >> and that you will prefer for us to handle generally whereby
>> >> >> everybody
>> >> will
>> >> >> be present. What I would have expected from anyone of you, if you
>> have
>> >> >> anything to tell me, is you come and tell me what is in you and we
>> >> settle
>> >> >> it. That is the good faith I thought that people are embodied in
>> >> >> this
>> >> >> institution.
>> >> >> I want to make my last comment: I don’t want any of you sitting
>> >> >> here,
>> >> if I
>> >> >> were to stand for any office, to cast a vote for me. Anybody who
>> >> >> does
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> signs that document, and you go and cast a vote for me, you are a
>> >> >> hypocrite.
>> >> >> Even if I die, any of you who signed that document, don’t come there
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> say
>> >> >> anything! Because you don’t believe what I believe, and therefore do
>> >> your
>> >> >> journalistic work. Not that I have any grievance against you, you
>> know
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> people who consider me as their enemy, when they are in trouble,
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> when I stand to put myself that trouble. I will forever work, if I
>> can
>> >> do
>> >> >> anything that you can earn so that you can earn it. The reasons why
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> am
>> >> >> saying this, I want to prove to you that I am not interested in
>> >> >> being
>> >> >> anybody’s leader. Whether National Assembly, whether President, I am
>> >> just
>> >> >> serving a national duty. So, that is what I want to say.
>> >> >> Abubacarr Saidykhan: Thank you very much uncle Halifa.
>> >> >> REACTIONS TO HALIFA SALLAH’S STATEMENT
>> >> >> Fabakary Ceesay: I think everyone of us heard what you said.
>> >> >> At this juncture Momodou Sambou wanted to come in, and there was a
>> >> >> unanimous
>> >> >> agreement that he (Momodou Sambou) should go out from the meeting.
>> >> >> He
>> >> was
>> >> >> told that he is interfering, and he was not in fact invited…Halifa
>> >> Sallah
>> >> >> intervened and said to Sambou: “Based on what we want to achieve,
>> just
>> >> >> allow
>> >> >> us to achieve that”.
>> >> >> Fabakary Ceesay: From what you have said, we all know that formally
>> you
>> >> >> may
>> >> >> not be the managing editor, but you are part of those people who
>> formed
>> >> >> this
>> >> >> establishment. We know that Sam Sarr is the managing editor, but for
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> past two years we all know that you acted as the editor-in-chief.
>> Most
>> >> of
>> >> >> the articles, you have the final say whether the article should be
>> >> >> published
>> >> >> or not. Sometimes we go to Sam Sarr and  ask that this article has
>> not
>> >> >> been
>> >> >> published, and Sam Sarr will say: “go to Halifa”. So, all of us
>> believe
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> you are the editor-in-chief, and you have the final say.
>> >> >> At this point, Halifa Sallah came in and said: “Fabakary, don’t make
>> >> >> remarks
>> >> >> that are derogatory. What I am saying is Sam Sarr is your managing
>> >> editor.
>> >> >> What we do there has nothing to do with you people as employees.
>> >> >> Abubacarr Saidykahn: Faks, allow him to flow in..
>> >> >> Halifa Sallah: Just state the facts as you know them. I am saying
>> that
>> >> >> what
>> >> >> we do there, you don’t know, and none of you knows! It can be
>> privilege
>> >> >> information, but what is important is Sam Sarr is your managing
>> editor.
>> >> If
>> >> >> you want accept in food faith that I am an editorial adviser, I am
>> not
>> >> the
>> >> >> one to see. If you are protesting is your managing editor that you
>> >> should
>> >> >> see. The rest is between us, not between you people. If you have a
>> >> >> particular article, and you see that something is not published,
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> when you should protest. If you protest, and see that yes want that
>> >> >> published, it has to be published. That is your grievances with your
>> >> >> managing editor. People have a right to do that in this institution.
>> I
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> seen many people who came to uncle Sam Sarr and said  that my
>> >> >> article
>> >> has
>> >> >> not been published, let it come. Then it is published in the next
>> >> >> instance.
>> >> >> That relation is there, is a privilege relation. It was not
>> >> >> happening
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> all
>> >> >> media houses.
>> >> >> In some media houses, if you don’t bribe people, your article will
>> not
>> >> be
>> >> >> published. If you are a woman, if you don’t sleep with a person, ,
>> you
>> >> >> don’t
>> >> >> get your article published. We know what is happening in many media
>> >> >> houses.
>> >> >> If Sam Sarr kenw that you are that type of a person, anyway I am
>> >> >> sure
>> >> you
>> >> >> will not get any information from him. People are getting privilege
>> >> >> information because one believes that this is an open institution,
>> and
>> >> all
>> >> >> of us have the same interest. The day that Sam Sarr know this has
>> >> become a
>> >> >> different institution (…), some even ready for destruction, I am
>> >> >> sure
>> >> Sam
>> >> >> Sarr will be a type of managing editor that you people think that he
>> is
>> >> >> efficient. For me, I disagree with him tremendously, and if anybody
>> is
>> >> >> close
>> >> >> there, you will know what I am saying. That all these institutions
>> are
>> >> >> managed in such a way, that is what we call laissez-faire.
>> >> >> Fabakary Ceesay: We are not saying that you are interfering with our
>> >> work.
>> >> >> We did not say that. What we said is that political activities,
>> during
>> >> the
>> >> >> political campaign, we all know this place has been turned into a
>> >> >> bureau
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> the United Front. Most of their articles are in the office. We are
>> all
>> >> >> politicians; most of us join this institution because of our
>> political
>> >> >> interest, and our political affiliation; because of the objectives
>> that
>> >> we
>> >> >> believe, and the ideas of PDOIS. That is why we joined.
>> >> >> Halifa Sallah: Stop incriminating the journalists. What I am saying
>> >> >> separate, you said separation of powers. I have put a case before
>> you,
>> >> and
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> can leave you to say what you want to say. The other that you are
>> >> >> mentioning, those are things you should mention among yourselves.
>> >> >> Fabakary Ceesay: What we said is that Halifa Sallah of PDOIS
>> >> >> established
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> institution.
>> >> >> Lamin Sanyang: Point of correction; it is not PDOIS, it is People’s
>> >> >> Center.
>> >> >>  Fabakary Ceesay: We said both; People’s center and PDOIS.
>> >> >> Yaya Bajo came in and attempted to read the petition. Abubacarr
>> >> Saidykahn
>> >> >> reacted, and said that there was an adjusted version of the
>> >> >> petition,
>> >> and
>> >> >> further urged Fabakary Ceesay to finish his reaction.
>> >> >> Fabakary Ceesay: What we are saying is that we are not
>> >> >> discriminating
>> >> >> anybody coming to this place. We like that. People have been coming
>> to
>> >> >> this
>> >> >> institution before we come here. What we are saying is that
>> activities
>> >> of
>> >> >> political parties are all done here. People come here before they go
>> to
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> rallies. Sometimes you will walk into the office, and you will see
>> all
>> >> >> kinds
>> >> >> of people. As far as Foroyaa is concerned, we don’t have any problem
>> >> with
>> >> >> that. We know that people come to you for counseling, and we also
>> know
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> Daily Observer is the mouthpiece of the government. This institution
>> is
>> >> >> more
>> >> >> of a political bureau than a newspaper bureau. APRC supporters do
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> go
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> Daily Observer and converge there. This is our concern. You come
>> here;
>> >> you
>> >> >> don’t even have a seat. People entered into rooms until Ousman
>> >> >> Sillah
>> >> have
>> >> >> to write a note on a chair to ask people to stop removing chairs
>> >> >> from
>> >> the
>> >> >> office. If I am practicing my job, I will do it impartially,
>> separated
>> >> >> from
>> >> >> politics. If I am into politics, I will be into politics…I will not
>> >> allow
>> >> >> my
>> >> >> professional bureau to be turned into a political party. People
>> working
>> >> >> under that institution raised that concern. I think you should have
>> >> >> take
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> in good faith as far as democracy is concerned. We all know that
>> halifa
>> >> >> Sallah comes to Foroyaa, and thee establishment is formed by him. We
>> >> >> cannot
>> >> >> distance Halifa Sallah from Foroyaa. Even though you are at People’s
>> >> >> center,
>> >> >> you did edit our articles. We do not have a problem in that.
>> >> >> You see, Hamat Bah comes here; Henry Gomez comes here; all kinds of
>> >> people
>> >> >> with different affiliations come here. We know that Foroyaa is a
>> place
>> >> >> where
>> >> >> people come and lodge their complains. We are not saying that Halifa
>> >> >> Sallah
>> >> >> should leave Foroyaa completely. The sacrifice you have taken on
>> behalf
>> >> of
>> >> >> some of us, we know that. You specifically mentioned my name when
>> >> >> Sam
>> >> >> Sarr,
>> >> >> Saidykhan and others were arrested. I was in the court room when
>> Sarata
>> >> >> Jabbie was granted bail, but she was taken away. I called Sarata’s
>> >> family
>> >> >> and they told that until 6 am Sarata did not join them. So, if you
>> said
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> I did not do my investigation correctly, I will disagree. I don’t
>> think
>> >> >> any
>> >> >> of us have a grievance. There are opinions that are contained in the
>> >> >> document.
>> >> >> Halifa Sallah: Confine yourself!
>> >> >> Abubacarr Saidykhan: Article 15 of the petition that is what touches
>> >> >> Halifa.
>> >> >> Fabakary Ceesay: You said you will take the recommendations as
>> >> hostility.
>> >> >> 99
>> >> >> per cent of us here are your own making. For how many years, I have
>> >> >> been
>> >> >> listening to your lectures. I started reading Foroyaa in 1994 when I
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> form 3 in my High School. I started associating myself, and I am
>> >> >> because
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> Foroyaa. I learnt a lot from Foroyaa. You are a man of divergent
>> views.
>> >> >> Foroyaa has been established to create a kind of society where
>> >> >> people
>> >> can
>> >> >> express themselves freely without fair or favour. We know other
>> people
>> >> >> from
>> >> >> other media houses the way they talk about their managing editors,
>> the
>> >> >> system going on. We stand straight to defend Foroyaa at anywhere.
>> >> >> Abubacarr Saidykhan: We have 22 main articles on our petition here,
>> and
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> only that touches Halifa Sallah  is article 14 which one our main
>> >> concern.
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> was very interested that you are only concerned with this one. Just
>> to
>> >> >> reiterate what Fabakaray Ceesay said, so many things have been
>> >> >> raised
>> >> >> before
>> >> >> us here. Out of my observation, you were peeved annoyed as to why we
>> >> >> should
>> >> >> do these recommendations, and putting your name on a lose paper that
>> >> might
>> >> >> fall into any hands as you said. Factually, I can assure that this
>> >> >> paper
>> >> >> has
>> >> >> not gone anywhere. In fact, it is only two copies that we have
>> >> circulated
>> >> >> so
>> >> >> far. The only signed copies that were distributed were given to you,
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> uncle Sam Sarr. To be honest with you, and uncle Halifa there is
>> nobody
>> >> >> who
>> >> >> sat with us to connive or conspire something against you. In fact,
>> the
>> >> >> meeting was held here openly; people were passing in; people were
>> going
>> >> >> out.
>> >> >> It was one of the concerns deem necessary that we should put it
>> before
>> >> the
>> >> >> management, that is why we put it there! I was thinking that you
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> tackle
>> >> >> this issue with understanding, and not to think that people are
>> >> >> going
>> >> into
>> >> >> another stage.
>> >> >> During the presidential elections, there were many accusations that
>> >> >> were
>> >> >> running in and out here, and it is because of the coming of the
>> people
>> >> >> into
>> >> >> this office. That is why we feel that guiding this office to
>> >> >> entirely
>> >> be a
>> >> >> place of journalistic work will allow us or will save us to run away
>> >> from
>> >> >> all those accusations. I have mentioned one of these accusations in
>> one
>> >> of
>> >> >> the meetings at the NADD bureau, and those were people in the party.
>> >> >> You
>> >> >> know what I mean…
>> >> >> Nobody is saying that you are interfering with our journalistic
>> >> >> work.
>> >> >> According to your own explanation, you’ve made proofs in some of
>> >> citations
>> >> >> that in my case that is a journalistic case. In the case of Sanyang,
>> >> that
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> journalistic. In the case of Fabakary Ceesay, that is also
>> >> >> journalistic.
>> >> >> That shows to me that you are getting into things that you don’t
>> people
>> >> to
>> >> >> see as the managing editor. So, we feel, even if you are not here,
>> you
>> >> can
>> >> >> still be doing that, but not for people to accuse us outside that
>> >> Foroyaa
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> mixing politics with journalism. We want to completely defend
>> >> >> ourselves,
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> put this institution to be respected by people so that they will it
>> is
>> >> >> purely journalistic. It is only journalistic work that is going in
>> out
>> >> of
>> >> >> this place. This institution is yours; I have known that since
>> before I
>> >> >> started working here. In fact, you told me in one of our discussions
>> >> that
>> >> >> you own this institution. But from your attitude uncle Halifa if a
>> new
>> >> >> person or a stranger comes here, he or she will not even know that
>> you
>> >> own
>> >> >> this paper. Because you have relegated yourself; you don’t show
>> people
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> you want property. I can testify. You taught me how to know myself
>> >> >> uncle
>> >> >> Halifa. Section 25 of the Constitution, I learnt it from you, from
>> your
>> >> >> editorials that give us power to petition the President. It is the
>> same
>> >> >> thing that we are applying here. We are not petitioning the
>> President.
>> >> But
>> >> >> that section, that is in the Constitution, and you taught me to
>> >> >> know,
>> >> that
>> >> >> is what we are doing here. We were thinking that when put this
>> >> >> before
>> >> you,
>> >> >> you would have been laughing. In fact, being inspired by our
>> >> >> activity
>> >> that
>> >> >> even you are far away from here, you will believe that these people
>> can
>> >> do
>> >> >> something in my absence.
>> >> >> If you should say to us that even if you die we should not go there
>> >> >> sand
>> >> >> say
>> >> >> anything. Then that means, you have taken this issue to a level that
>> we
>> >> >> never expected. I have never, ever expected that you will say this
>> >> >> to
>> >> us.
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> was so electrified when you mentioned that.
>> >> >> You advised us that journalist must be independent, neutral and must
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> take side. It is your responsibility to tell us, even if it is an
>> >> >> accusation, that what we are saying is not the case. To tell us that
>> it
>> >> is
>> >> >> frivolous conspiring, that was not what we have expected.The only
>> area
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> concerns you Uncle Halifa is on article 15 of this recommendation,
>> and
>> >> >> there
>> >> >> is nobody who can clarify this issue for us more than you. Uncle Sam
>> >> >> cannot
>> >> >> elaborate on this issue and you have succinctly elucidated during
>> your
>> >> >> statement that you are not interfering with our work. I think that
>> >> >> is
>> >> the
>> >> >> area that you should have drawn the cotton. And among us here no one
>> is
>> >> >> interested in conspiring against you whether in public or private.
>> But
>> >> we
>> >> >> cannot also be use like tools by anybody as well.
>> >> >> Lamin Sanyang…This meeting is to engage the management about the
>> issue
>> >> >> which
>> >> >> I feel is very necessary. Like you always said that uncle Halifa is
>> >> like a
>> >> >> conscience to the nation you have been engaging the president and
>> other
>> >> >> people. So I feel if we as reporters of Foroyaa should make the same
>> >> thing
>> >> >> why thinking that is hostility or frivolous. I don’t think that is
>> it.
>> >> >> This
>> >> >> is our opinion and we all have the right to our opinions. About the
>> Tax
>> >> >> Commission, I was the one who was at the tax commission. Mr. Fafa
>> Mbye
>> >> was
>> >> >> at the commission and was asked about his tax payments for 2011, and
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> further told by the state counsel that he has defaulted which he has
>> >> >> accepted. So that is why I put that headline that he has defaulted.
>> >> >> Pateh Beldeh… I want to start with as Uncle Halifa has said.
>> Definitely
>> >> we
>> >> >> are proud of Halifa and I think each and every one of us is proud of
>> >> what
>> >> >> PDOIS generally not even foroyaa. Foroyaa is an organ of PDOIS. I
>> think
>> >> we
>> >> >> discuss this, we believe in this and most of us know this. We are
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> saying
>> >> >> anybody who is at PDOIS should not be attached to Foroyaa we are not
>> >> >> saying
>> >> >> that. We are saying anything of political issues should be address
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> people’s center. Once you are here you are putting on Foroyaa
>> >> >> Uniform
>> >> this
>> >> >> we are saying. Once going for political issues you should put on
>> >> political
>> >> >> uniform and then we go to people’s center and address it there. As
>> far
>> >> as
>> >> >> my
>> >> >> understanding is concern, I am a journalist and a politician. And I
>> >> >> believe
>> >> >> that uncle Halifa should be proud of us. Halifa some of us as he
>> >> >> said
>> >> that
>> >> >> we were in the dustbin. He has help us to be part of the society
>> >> >> then
>> >> >> we
>> >> >> should be proud of that and then he should never repeat this because
>> he
>> >> >> has
>> >> >> done it for the sake of Allah and people have recognize his job. The
>> >> whole
>> >> >> world respected Halifa and the whole world respected PDOIS no matter
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> from which party in this country. And no matters from which media
>> >> >> house,
>> >> >> if
>> >> >> you meet with a Foroyaa reporter you have to give regard to the
>> person.
>> >> No
>> >> >> matter the challenges we face, we respect the editorial board of
>> >> >> Foroyaa
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> it does not mean that we should not have the sake to complain to
>> >> >> them
>> >> and
>> >> >> if
>> >> >> that is case then what we learn here is meaningless. Some of us can
>> sit
>> >> >> here
>> >> >> and look at halifa for the whole day without realizing it. I
>> >> >> remember
>> >> >> sitting with him while fasting but I cannot even remember that I was
>> >> >> fasting
>> >> >> just because of the love I have for him. We also come here and
>> >> >> encounter
>> >> >> lots of difficulties but we are taking it in good faith.
>> >> >> Musa Barrow… We describe this as a sanctuary for liberty and a
>> bastion
>> >> of
>> >> >> freedom. So essentially the spirit behind this letter I don’t it
>> meant
>> >> to
>> >> >> offend anyone because as we all know we are all been here working.
>> >> >> Is
>> >> just
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> suggestion that we are making because so often especially during the
>> >> >> campaigns some of my colleagues will complain that the office is
>> washed
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> so many people using the chairs. So it was out of that concern that
>> >> >> this
>> >> >> recommendation was made. There is no element of hostility in this.
>> Here
>> >> we
>> >> >> are brothers and sisters and I do think being hostile to one another
>> >> will
>> >> >> not in anyway help our course.
>> >> >> Yaya Bajo.. What I want to say with the reaction of Halifa to this
>> >> >> particular point. I think you should explain to us the answer of the
>> >> first
>> >> >> question you pose to us in the beginning. But to tell people that
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> do
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> want people to vote for you and stuffs like that has taken me by
>> >> surprise
>> >> >> definitely speaking. Because I think you are a leader and you should
>> >> >> accept
>> >> >> constructive criticism.
>> >> >> Mamadou Dem... I think my colleagues have said it all. We don know
>> the
>> >> >> person Sam Sarr is answerable to because this is the third time we
>> are
>> >> >> having such kind of a meeting and all that use to say is “Yes I will
>> >> look
>> >> >> into it.” This is all he says and at the end of the day nothing will
>> be
>> >> >> implemented. We do not who is answerable to.
>> >> >> Ania Gaye.. I wan to talk on the political issue. Most of the time
>> you
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> fine people sitting here and all they discuss is politics which is
>> >> >> reducing
>> >> >> our character. We cannot do our journalistic work the way we should
>> it.
>> >> >> They
>> >> >> will all converge here talking about politics and nothing else and I
>> >> feel
>> >> >> that is not going to secure us as journalist and some of them could
>> be
>> >> >> NIAs.
>> >> >> Lamin Njie/ Accountant…For me my concern is that you people
>> >> misunderstood
>> >> >> uncle halifa. In any society there must be a chain work and
>> >> commandments.
>> >> >> If
>> >> >> you have any problem you go the editors first and to the managing
>> >> >> editor
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> from the managing editor to uncle halifa he should be the last
>> >> >> person
>> >> you
>> >> >> should see. If these people cannot solve your problem, among
>> >> >> yourself
>> >> you
>> >> >> select one person to go to them. For me I am very much disappointed.
>> >> There
>> >> >> should be a chain of command and you don’t have to by past your
>> >> >> boss.
>> >> You
>> >> >> know writing is very dangerous, you don’t know that?  At this
>> juncture
>> >> the
>> >> >> strikers could not control laughing and Mr. Sallah intervenes by
>> saying
>> >> >> “You
>> >> >> guys are not serious he is talking and you are laughing.” The
>> >> accountant..
>> >> >> There are lots of problems happening here without you people knowing
>> >> >> it.
>> >> >> Sulayman Bah… We exhausted all options before calling this meeting
>> >> >> by
>> >> >> writing to the management it self. You see, Uncle Sam would agree
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> end of the day he will do nothing absolutely. i some time fine it
>> >> >> difficult
>> >> >> to write my article and when I told uncle Sam he will show me
>> >> disinterest.
>> >> >> When the petition was served the way you approach me uncle halifa I
>> >> would
>> >> >> describe that as an attack because the whole thing is jointly
>> >> >> written
>> >> and
>> >> >> every reporter agree to it. You went to the point saying that you
>> will
>> >> not
>> >> >> tolerate none science. And you always talk about democracy and
>> >> >> democracy
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> all about divergent views and people must express their opinions and
>> >> there
>> >> >> is no where were people will have the same opinions on matters.
>> >> >> Awa Bah… The difficulty we faced outside is that the moments you
>> >> introduce
>> >> >> yourself as a Foroyaa reporter people see you as an opposition
>> >> journalist
>> >> >> directly linked with politics. This is what is affecting us as
>> >> journalist
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> this paper. Some people fine it difficult to send their kids to come
>> to
>> >> >> Fororyaa just because of the too much political ideology mixed with
>> >> >> journalism.  This is not done out of anger. That is what I have to
>> say.
>> >> >> Sarjo Camara… Uncle Halifa, I think this move is a very progressive
>> >> >> move
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> me.
>> >> >> And if at all it was a reactionary move I think it would have not
>> come
>> >> in
>> >> >> this way. You are a roll model to all of us and the reason is to
>> bring
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> breach between our work and politics. This is the only point we feel
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> should come in and clarify. We have been calling meetings in your
>> >> absence
>> >> >> and is the same thing we discuss. You know people better than all of
>> us
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> you can even read the mines of others.  None of have the interest of
>> >> >> living
>> >> >> this office for another place. I personally I know what foroyaa did
>> for
>> >> me
>> >> >> so I will not exchange foroyaa for any other institution. Please,
>> take
>> >> >> every
>> >> >> thing in good faith and give us your own opinion the way we should
>> work
>> >> >> positively to achieve our aims and objectives of this organization.
>> >> >> Halifa Sallah.. Thank you very much.
>> >> >> Mamadou Sambou… Wanted to come in to say something but unfortunately
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> allowed by the strikers to utter a word and was further by Halifa to
>> >> calm
>> >> >> down.
>> >> >> Reporters’ Recommendation
>> >> >> 1. General meeting for staff and other office sections on regular
>> >> >> basis.
>> >> >> 2.  Inconsistency with food provision.
>> >> >> 3. Salary increment: increment for payment for articles. Provision
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> books,
>> >> >> pens, and other working materials.
>> >> >> 3. Provision of standard and workable computers.
>> >> >> 4. Refurbishion of the reporters’ place of work.
>> >> >> 5. Increment of salary status of freelance journalists according to
>> the
>> >> >> Gambia Press Union’s recommendations.
>> >> >> 6. Late payment of salaries.
>> >> >> 8. Reaching a contract agreement before commencement of work.
>> >> >> 9. Handing of appointment letters including employment packages
>> >> >> i.e.:
>> >> >> entitlement. Social security membership cards and payment of social
>> >> >> security
>> >> >> dues.
>> >> >> 10. Adjustment of press cards. Eg the Gambia before institution name
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> emboldening of the ‘Foroyaa’ name.
>> >> >> 11. Approval of fares and late coming of approving editors.
>> >> >> 12. Transport allowances to reporters.
>> >> >> 13. Quality of editing of the articles with presentable but
>> captivating
>> >> >> captions
>> >> >> 14. We need sub-editors on courts, sports and other sectors: news
>> >> editors
>> >> >> and proof-readers from our midst.
>> >> >> 15. We recommend that Halifa Sallah of people’s Center move to the
>> NADD
>> >> >> office to create enough room for reporters. The besieging of the
>> office
>> >> >> premises by politicians is of a great concern. We recommend that
>> there
>> >> be
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> clear separation of politics from journalism.
>> >> >> 16. We have noticed that food is not provided since the appointed
>> cook
>> >> has
>> >> >> been bed-ridden by an ailment and we recommend that a substitute
>> >> >> cook
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> hired in case such circumstance occurs.
>> >> >> 17. We call for an immediate but speedy staffing of reporters who
>> have
>> >> >> served for more than two years.
>> >> >> 18. We recommend that reporters be upgraded PROFESSIONALLY.
>> >> >> 19. Increment of Columns pay/ informing of staff over issues of
>> >> >> delay
>> >> >> payment of salaries IF there is any such problem. We demand
>> >> >> reporters
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> giving reasonable explanation supposedly if the management is facing
>> >> >> financial hiccups.
>> >> >> 20. We are calling for a general meeting with the entire management
>> by
>> >> >> FRIDAY 16th, after the Friday prayers.
>> >> >> 21. The printing of the newspapers ranging from pictures, should be
>> >> given
>> >> >> due consideration.
>> >> >> 22. Since the paper is the oldest in the country, we recommend that
>> it
>> >> >> comes
>> >> >> on a daily basis.
>> >> >> IF THESE ABOVE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE NOT GIVEN DUE AND URGENT
>> >> CONSIDERATION
>> >> >> BY
>> >> >> 15th JANUARY 2012, WE WILL EMBARK ON A SIT-DOWN STRIKE.
>> >> >> Sign:
>> >> >> Abubacarr Saidykhan……………………………………
>> >> >> Sulayman Bah……………………………..
>> >> >> Fabakary B. Ceesay………………………………………..
>> >> >> Musa Barrow
>> >> >> Pateh Baldeh……………………………………………….
>> >> >> Mamadou Dem…………………………………………………
>> >> >> Sarjo Camara ……………………………………………..
>> >> >> Lamin Sanyang …………………………………………
>> >> >> Annia Gaye……………………………………………
>> >> >> Amie Sanneh…………………………………..
>> >> >> Kebba Camara …………………………..
>> >> >> Awa B Bah ………………………………….
>> >> >> Abdoulie Dibba …………………………….
>> >> >> Madiba Singhateh ……………………….
>> >> >> Mariama Ceesay………………………
>> >> >> Lamin Fatty…………………………..
>> >> >> Yaya Bajo……………………………..
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
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