True enough. I'd just like a few more options. I hope you're right about
the changing landscape.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Buddy Brannan" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:45
Subject: Re: Fun on 10 meters
> It's true that our choices right now are very limited, and there's no =
> denying that. However, I believe the landscape is changing, and for the =
> better. Not as fast as we'd like, but it's finally happening. Are =
> sighted people complaining about features they neither want nor need? =
> Probably, I don't see how they're any different in that regard, they =
> just have a wider field from which to complain about.=20
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>
>
>
> On Oct 27, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Steve Dresser wrote:
>
>> I don't mind if a phone has some things I can't or don't want to use =
> as long=20
>> as I have a few phones to choose from. Right now, if I want a new =
> phone, my=20
>> choices are the iPhone, an Android phone with an add-on screen reader, =
> or=20
>> nothing. To me, that's not an acceptable set of options when I know =
> that=20
>> sighted people have a range of phones they can choose from. I've even =
> heard=20
>> sighted people grumble about having to buy phones with features they =
> really=20
>> don't want.
>>=20
>> Steve
>>=20
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Buddy Brannan" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:07
>> Subject: Re: Fun on 10 meters
>>=20
>>=20
>>> I got Melanie the Haven just a few weeks ago. New on eBay. She loves =
> it =3D
>>> precisely because of its simplicity. I certainly hope that something =
> =3D
>>> like it is available for a long time, but (sadly) I believe the no =3D
>>> frills phone's days are numbered. This doesn't mean that they'll all =
> =3D
>>> have Internet access, but it's not going to surprise me much to see =
> more =3D
>>> and more of them that do. I mean, try finding a phone without a =
> camera. =3D
>>> Apart from the Haven, I don't think you can anymore; or if you can, =3D=
>
>>> they're pretty rare. Even crappy phones have cameras, even if they're =
> =3D
>>> crappy cameras.=3D20
>>> --
>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Oct 27, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Steve Dresser wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> Russ,
>>>> =3D20
>>>> That's true, if you want a smart phone, and want to deal with the =3D
>>> touch=3D20
>>>> screen, which in my opinion is obnoxious. Remember, I said "a =
> simple=3D20=3D
>>>=20
>>>> phone."
>>>> =3D20
>>>> Steve
>>>> =3D20
>>>> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
>>>> From: "Russ Kiehne" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:35
>>>> Subject: Re: Fun on 10 meters
>>>> =3D20
>>>> =3D20
>>>>> Well, you still have the Iphone.
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> -----Original Message-----=3D20
>>>>> From: Steve Dresser
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:28 AM
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: Fun on 10 meters
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> I've heard that too, Harvey, but not officially. If true, it's a =
> sad
>>>>> commentary on accessible phones, since I know of no other simple =3D
>>> phone=3D20
>>>>> that
>>>>> gave as much access to menus, etc.
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
>>>>> From: "Harvey Heagy" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 09:05
>>>>> Subject: Re: Fun on 10 meters
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> And now I am told that the Samsung Haven has been discontinued, =
> but =3D
>>> I=3D20
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> not had that officially confirmed.
>>>>>> Harvey
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
>>>>>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 9:35 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Fun on 10 meters
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> Well, puns aside, and speaking as someone who bought a Samsung =3D
>>> Haven on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> strength of your tutorial, I appreciate your attention to detail =
> =3D
>>> and
>>>>>>> accuracy.
>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> =3D20
>>>=20
>
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