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Gerry Leary <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 24 Oct 2011 01:05:23 -0600
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Thanks very much.  It is early Monday Morning.  Did you get on the air 
yesterday?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 5:00 AM
Subject: Re: Small dilemma; Need some advice


>    Gerry:
>
> The radiating element of the 160 sloper is 68 feet long, and the radiating
> element of the 80-meter one is about half that length, I believe.
>
> The rest of the length is made up of the loading coil for each antenna, 
> and
> the counterpoise which is connected to ground.
>
> For more information, go to:
>
> www.w8amz.com
>
> This is all very experimental for me at this point, and I know I'm not
> giving you the most complete information. ... I'll have more details 
> later.
>
> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gerry Leary" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 6:34 AM
> Subject: Re: Small dilemma; Need some advice
>
>
>> Tom, How long are the new antennas?
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tom Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 6:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: Small dilemma; Need some advice
>>
>>
>>>    Pat:
>>>
>>> I believe my answer to your question, if I understand it correctly is
>>> "yes".
>>>
>>> My understanding of these antennas is that there is a main radiating
>>> element
>>> that is connected to a coil that is wound for the particular band in
>>> question.  In my case, one antenna is for 80 and the other is for 160.
>>>
>>> On the other end of that coil is a counterpoise wire that is then
>>> connected
>>> to ground.
>>>
>>> The ground, supposedly, is the all-important thing that makes the 
>>> antenna
>>> actually work.
>>>
>>> This was all new to me last week-end, too.
>>>
>>> The guy I bought the antennas from is w8amz, from Muskegon, Michigan.
>>>
>>> His web site is:
>>>
>>> www.w8amz.com
>>>
>>> 73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Pat Byrne" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 3:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Small dilemma; Need some advice
>>>
>>>
>>>> Is a mast enough "missing other side" for a sloper Tom?  Somewhere I
>>>> was led to believe that something with more "mass" to it would be
>>>> necessary.  Opens up new choices for me!!
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Pat, K9JAU
>>>> By the way; just worked an Alaskan, first call out of the box on ten
>>>> with the Carolina Windem up perhaps thirty-five feet.  Ten sounds
>>>> absolutely excellent.At 09:17 AM 10/22/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>     Thanks, Howard.
>>>>>
>>>>>Time will tell, I'm sure.
>>>>>
>>>>>73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Howard, W A 9 Y B W" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:16 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: Small dilemma; Need some advice
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Hi Tom,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > In my experience, if you use a good electrical tape such as the 3M
>>>>> > #33
>>>>> > tape
>>>>> > it will last for years.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Howard, #3 W A 9 Y B W
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > From: "Tom Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:30 PM
>>>>> > Subject: Small dilemma; Need some advice
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Hi, all.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Well, to make a very long story short, I have decided to take my
>>>>> >> troublesome
>>>>> >> Carolina Windom 160 compact antenna down, and am in the process of
>>>>> >> replacing
>>>>> >> it with a 160-meter sloper, and an 80-meter sloper that I purchased
>>>>> >> at
>>>>> >> a
>>>>> >> swap in my area last week-end.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> We are in the middle of the antenna replacement process, but I'm
>>>>> >> hoping
>>>>> >> it
>>>>> >> should be done by later tomorrow.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> All has gone well, except for one small issue, which I'm torn about
>>>>> >> how
>>>>> >> to
>>>>> >> deal with.  This is the kind of issue where we've all been there
>>>>> >> when
>>>>> >> trying
>>>>> >> to deal with volunteer help who doesn't do things like we would.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Anyway, my friend installed the 160-meter sloper at the top of my
>>>>> >> 40-foot
>>>>> >> mast, but when I asked him how he sealed the coax connection at the
>>>>> >> feed
>>>>> >> point, he said that he coated the connector with a dialectric
>>>>> >> grease,
>>>>> >> and
>>>>> >> then tightly wrapped three layers of electrical tape around the
>>>>> >> connection.
>>>>> >> The tape he used was some real good 3 M tape that I had gotten a
>>>>> >> while
>>>>> >> ago.
>>>>> >> I had wanted him to put coax seal on top of the tape, but he would
>>>>> >> not
>>>>> >> do
>>>>> >> it, arguing that what he did should be fine.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Obviously, my concern is that the electrical tape eventually will
>>>>> >> deteriorate, and let water into the connection.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I'm trying to figure out a tactful way to bring up this issue again
>>>>> >> with
>>>>> >> him
>>>>> >> when he comes back tomorrow, but, at the same time, I don't want to
>>>>> >> offend
>>>>> >> him, since he has done so much for me already.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Does anyone have any ideas as to how to tactfully handle the
>>>>> >> situation?
>>>>> >> Obviously, if just having the electrical tape was good enough, I
>>>>> >> wouldn't
>>>>> >> stress about it, but I would sure hate to be introducing 
>>>>> >> unnecessary
>>>>> >> problems into the situation here.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>>>>> >
>>>>
>> 

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