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"T. Joseph Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:07:07 -0700
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As a matter of fact, no, they can't.  While we blind people are 
pretty used to the idea of listening to multiple things at once, 
sighted people tend to only look at one thing at a time.  Watching 
your phone or something when you need to be watching something else 
is not exactly recommended.  Also, while jogging or running, fiddling 
with whatever pouch or pocket you've got your phone in is likely to 
mess up your run.

I myself frequently have my phone in a velcro pouch on a runner's 
belt, which is under a parka or similar as warranted by the Oregon 
weather.  I've got a pair of iPhone-ready IPEVO over-the-ear buds 
(which don't go into your ear and consequently don't muffle sound 
directions!), and I tend to wear them so that I can answer a call or 
listen to music when I'm not near a street crossing.  If I'm wearing 
gloves, it's even more problematic.  For me, there cannot be enough 
voice commands, and I'm really sorry I won't have Siri until I buy a 
new iPhone.

Basically, the more it can do without me having to fish it out, look 
at it, or touch it with bare fingers when it gets cold, the better it 
will be if the circumstances are right.  That's why I consider the 
iPhone 4S a monumental step forward, and not a disappointing 
non-iPhone 5.

Joseph - KF7QZC


On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 06:03:45AM -0600, Gerry Leary wrote:
>Sighted users can just look at the screen.  When the screen comes on I
>believe the time is one of the Status bar items at the top of the screen.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "T. Joseph Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 5:57 AM
>Subject: Re: iphone and making calls
>
>
>> Yeah, but I only use voiceover about a third of the time, so there's=20
>> no guarantee it's running at any given point.  That's why I thought=20
>> the time was such a good idea for the phone to tell you as a voice=20
>> command=E2=80=94sighted users would benefit.
>>
>> Joseph - KF7QZC
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 05:53:58AM -0600, Gerry Leary wrote:
>>>Also if your screen is locked, and the mute is off, when you press the h=
>> ome
>>>button the phone will tell you the time if Voice Over is on.
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "T. Joseph Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 5:46 AM
>>>Subject: Re: iphone and making calls
>>>
>>>
>>>> That worked in iOS 5.
>>>>
>>>> Joseph - KF7QZC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 08:40:22PM -0400, Steve wrote:
>>>>>Say "what time is it?"  In IOS 4 and above, it should work.
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "T. Joseph Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 4:46 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: iphone and making calls
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've got an iPhone 3GS running iOS 5.0 and time is not one of my
>>>>>> voice commands.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joseph - KF7QZC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 02:14:30AM -0600, Gerry Leary wrote:
>>>>>>>If you have the most current opporating system at least IOS4 it shou=
>> ld
>>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "T. Joseph Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 6:00 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: iphone and making calls
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apparently not found on the 3GS.  That's annoying.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joseph - KF7QZC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 05:05:52AM -0600, Gerry Leary wrote:
>>>>>>>>>On my iphone 4 I can push the home key and hold it until the phone
>>>>>>>>>vibrates
>>>>>>>>>and makes a dinging sound then I say time and let go of the button=
>> .
>>>>>>>>>Then
>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>tells me the time.
>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>From: "T. Joseph Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:54 PM
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: iphone and making calls
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not without using the screen reader.  I suggested it as handy fo=
>> r
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> sighties.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Joseph - KF7QZC
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 04:31:21AM -0600, Gerry Leary wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>You can do that with the regular 4
>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>From: "T. Joseph Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:32 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: iphone and making calls
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I do greatly appreciate that the 4S has added the most basic of
>>>>>>>>>>>> things: What time is it?  Truly, I suggested it and got an ema=
>> il
>>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>>> saying, "HEY, that's a great idea!  We'll pass it on!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Joseph - KF7QZC
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 01:45:12PM -0500, Gery Gaubert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have been using the iphone for about 2 and a half years now.=
>>  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>to=3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>> make calls and now with the SIRI on the 4s making calls is ea=
>> sier
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> eve=3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>r.  I have gotten pretty good about moving around the screens =
>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the=3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>> apps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gery D. Gaubert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Assistant, Information Technology Administrator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>St. Charles Parish Sheriff's Office
>>>>>>>>>>>>>office (985) 783-0208
>>>>>>>>>>>>>mobile 504-329-9439
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