I saw a lot of it when I had my simplex link up, a lot more in the club I 
quit and used to hear a lot of talk along those lines on 2 meters until I 
got off other than the little I do now, mostly skywarn, ARES and RACES uses 
and monitoring the repeater for the club I'm real active with which keeps me 
away from those repeaters for the most part. The only time it can be a 
problem now is when I'm out and about I tend to have an  HT with me but 
mostly 900 MHz which also keeps me clear of that, my appearances on 2 meters 
are very rare and that is the main reason why.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerry Leary" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: Fun on 10 meters


> Hey John, I don't think that conditions are really that way.  Right now I
> have no antenna up, and Echo-link at least provides me a way to stay in
> touch with some of the people that I might normally talk with.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:02 AM
> Subject: Re: Fun on 10 meters
>
>
>> You'd never see me sink that low, I've been with out antennas since the
>> end
>> of August and lived with my "now in-laws" for a couple months a couple
>> years
>> ago and while I was not happy with no radio, I'd never be happy on a
>> computer, claiming it was radio either. In fact, I'd be ashamed of myself
>> as
>> I am for that short time I had a simplex link up a bunch of years ago.
>> Once
>> I found out the mentality on there was that people are opting for that so
>> they don't have to upgrade, or don't have to deal with band conditions 
>> and
>> what not, I found out that's the mentality on there, made sure my 
>> callsign
>> was out of the system for good, uninstalled the program and vowed to 
>> never
>> go back. That's also when I let go of most of my 2 meter equipment too
>> since
>> too many repeaters have it on them around here and it leads to nothing 
>> but
>> ignorance and problems. I also think those who try to demonstrate it to
>> new
>> hams should lose their licenses permanently, bad enough they do it but to
>> try to get new people in to ham radio claiming that's the way, nothing
>> like
>> showing up at a job fair with a table advertising going on wellfare.
>> Besides, there's always a way to manage with antennas, even if it's
>> indoor,
>> mobile, remote controlled, temporary like a gokit setup, someway to get 
>> on
>> the air if you care that much about it. I'd go the indoor option here if 
>> I
>> had anything to put indoor and wasn't going to be moving anywhere from a
>> week to a month and that's been uncertain for the last month plus. Now
>> that
>> we have the car back though, I'll be working soon on putting my gokit
>> setup
>> in there, probably next week. Looks like I'm at my mother's Thursday for 
>> a
>> while so I'll probably do it then so I don't have to worry about getting
>> hit
>> in my parking lot.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gerry Leary" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 6:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: Fun on 10 meters
>>
>>
>>> You know some people just can't put an antenna up, and Echolink is a
>>> welcome
>>> invention.
>>>