It's true that our choices right now are very limited, and there's no denying that. However, I believe the landscape is changing, and for the better. Not as fast as we'd like, but it's finally happening. Are sighted people complaining about features they neither want nor need? Probably, I don't see how they're any different in that regard, they just have a wider field from which to complain about.
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Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
On Oct 27, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Steve Dresser wrote:
> I don't mind if a phone has some things I can't or don't want to use as long
> as I have a few phones to choose from. Right now, if I want a new phone, my
> choices are the iPhone, an Android phone with an add-on screen reader, or
> nothing. To me, that's not an acceptable set of options when I know that
> sighted people have a range of phones they can choose from. I've even heard
> sighted people grumble about having to buy phones with features they really
> don't want.
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Buddy Brannan" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:07
> Subject: Re: Fun on 10 meters
>
>
>> I got Melanie the Haven just a few weeks ago. New on eBay. She loves it =
>> precisely because of its simplicity. I certainly hope that something =
>> like it is available for a long time, but (sadly) I believe the no =
>> frills phone's days are numbered. This doesn't mean that they'll all =
>> have Internet access, but it's not going to surprise me much to see more =
>> and more of them that do. I mean, try finding a phone without a camera. =
>> Apart from the Haven, I don't think you can anymore; or if you can, =
>> they're pretty rare. Even crappy phones have cameras, even if they're =
>> crappy cameras.=20
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 27, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Steve Dresser wrote:
>>
>>> Russ,
>>> =20
>>> That's true, if you want a smart phone, and want to deal with the =
>> touch=20
>>> screen, which in my opinion is obnoxious. Remember, I said "a simple=20=
>>
>>> phone."
>>> =20
>>> Steve
>>> =20
>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>> From: "Russ Kiehne" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:35
>>> Subject: Re: Fun on 10 meters
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>>> Well, you still have the Iphone.
>>>> =20
>>>> -----Original Message-----=20
>>>> From: Steve Dresser
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:28 AM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: Fun on 10 meters
>>>> =20
>>>> I've heard that too, Harvey, but not officially. If true, it's a sad
>>>> commentary on accessible phones, since I know of no other simple =
>> phone=20
>>>> that
>>>> gave as much access to menus, etc.
>>>> =20
>>>> Steve
>>>> =20
>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>> From: "Harvey Heagy" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 09:05
>>>> Subject: Re: Fun on 10 meters
>>>> =20
>>>> =20
>>>>> And now I am told that the Samsung Haven has been discontinued, but =
>> I=20
>>>>> have
>>>>> not had that officially confirmed.
>>>>> Harvey
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 9:35 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Fun on 10 meters
>>>>> =20
>>>>> =20
>>>>>> Well, puns aside, and speaking as someone who bought a Samsung =
>> Haven on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> strength of your tutorial, I appreciate your attention to detail =
>> and
>>>>>> accuracy.
>>>>>> =20
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>> =20
>>>> =20
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