That is not true either.  The tuner only changes how the input side of the 
tuner is viewed.  Meaning that it changes what the final transistors see 
rather then what the output of the tuner sees.  So no matter what kind of 
tuner you have it will not change the conditions between the tuner and 
antenna.  This is why some people prefer wire tuners because they don't have 
any feed line between them and the antenna.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: Strange Power Readings With LDG TW1


> No, you want to know the match between the antenna and the radio.  The 
> tuner
> will always be matched to the radio.
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gerry Leary" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 04:30
> Subject: Re: Strange Power Readings With LDG TW1
>
>
>> Shouldn't the meter go in front of the tuner so that you can check the
>> match
>> between the tuner and Radio?
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: Strange Power Readings With LDG TW1
>>
>>
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>> Those readings are meaningless because the auto-tuner is engaged.
>>> They're
>>> also meaningless because of the high SWR.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Tom Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 20:27
>>> Subject: Strange Power Readings With LDG TW1
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi, folks.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I ought to go back to basic antennas 101 class, but I just found
>>>> out
>>>> something with my Carolina Windom 160 compact that doesn't quite make
>>>> sense
>>>> to me.
>>>>
>>>> I am testing out the antenna to see if water got back into it after the
>>>> week
>>>> of rain we have had here, and I discovered some strange power readings
>>>> with
>>>> my LDG TW1 talking watt meter.
>>>>
>>>> Right now, my Carolina Windom, such as it is, seems to be resonant on
>>>> the
>>>> lower end of 80 meters--right around 3.600 MHZ.
>>>>
>>>> As expected, then, when I go to the upper phone part of the band, say
>>>> around
>>>> 3.976 MHZ, my sWR rises dramatically to a blistering 6.0 to 1.
>>>> (ouch!!!!!!)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly, though, the auto tuner in the TS590 tunes the antenna,
>>>> which
>>>> was a bit of a surprise to me.
>>>>
>>>> I then took some  forward and reflected power readings with my TW1, and
>>>> was
>>>> told that the forward power was 102 watts, while my reflected power was
>>>> 52
>>>> watts.
>>>>
>>>> Again, this is with the auto-tuner engaged.
>>>>
>>>> Can someone tell me what is going on here?
>>>>
>>>> To be honest, I'm still a bit hesitant to use the Carolina Windom, 
>>>> given
>>>> the
>>>> water problems I have had of late.
>>>>
>>>> Would this antenna be safe to use on the top part of 80 meters, since
>>>> the
>>>> auto-tuner clearly tunes it, or am I just kidding myself here.
>>>>
>>>> And, could I safely use this antenna on the upper part of 75 meters 
>>>> with
>>>> my
>>>> Tentech 238A manual tuner and Ameritron
>>>> AL811H amplifier?
>>>>
>>>> I guess I'm now a bit gun shy.
>>>>
>>>> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>>>>
>>