I'm sure they are aware.
but, there are also reasons they design them the way they do.
longevity and a more robust design are often higher priorities for
manufacturers over things like sound and intelligibility.
73
Colin, V A6BKX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Leary" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: HT suggestions please
> Maybe the manufacturer needs to know about that mod.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 3:48 PM
> Subject: Re: HT suggestions please
>
>
>> your right I think.
>> at the same time, by making the SMA's opposite of the typical commercial
>> HT,
>> they have insured that the amateur accessory market for antennas thrives.
>> Not all commercial HT's are opposite of the ham gear though...a local ham
>> who also operates his own small business UHF repeater, has several Icom
>> commercial HT's that have the same configuration as the icom ham HT's and
>> so
>> on.
>> these are older, or at least, a few years older, HT's though and most are
>> the same model, which I can't remember off the top of my head.
>> Great little HT's though...small, great audio and excellent user
>> configurations for things like TOT, tones, squelch, display, alert tones
>> and
>> so on.
>>
>> anyway, with companies like Wouxun and others designing their HT's more
>> towards the commercial side, I think the big three and their supporting
>> accessory manufacturers will begin to see some proffit losses in the next
>> few years.
>> unless they start making accessories for the chinese radios as well,
>> which
>> I
>> suspect they will before long...since wouxun at least seems to be taking
>> off
>> in north america right now.
>> I know of at least 10 local hams who have the dual band udp2? radio.
>> once you bore a hole in front of the microphone element, and remove the
>> rubber membrane, the tx audio is extremely good...if you leave it stock,
>> the
>> tx audio is very low and sometimes difficult to hear.
>>
>> 73
>> Colin, V A6BKX
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 10:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: HT suggestions please
>>
>>
>>> Colin,
>>>
>>> While I'm not a big fan of SMA connectors, I think we're stuck with them
>>> because there isn't room in the modern HT for anything else. All that
>>> said,
>>> I don't understand why the "big three" ham manufacturers took the
>>> reverse
>>> approach of the commercial handhelds. Seems as if they shot themselves
>>> in
>>> the foot by doing what they did.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 00:54
>>> Subject: Re: HT suggestions please
>>>
>>>
>>>>I tend to agree with Danny on this one.
>>>> I haven't broken an SMA connecter yet, but I've known of many instances
>>>> where this has happened. Far fewer instances of BNC connecters
>>>> breaking
>>>> off
>>>> the radio or snapping.
>>>> Also, BNC connecters are far more ruggedly constructed and due to their
>>>> larger size, are far easier for blind ops to repare than an SMA.
>>>> Also, a female BNC, IE the connecter on the radio itself, has far less
>>>> friction on it when taking antennas on or off...an SMA style set up
>>>> requires
>>>> you to screw the antenna on or off the radio, and the center pin of the
>>>> antenna, or at any rate, the male part of the SMA connecter drills into
>>>> the
>>>> female part of the plug until the connection is tight. This causes
>>>> metal
>>>> fatigue. With a BNC connecter, you just press the two halves together,
>>>> and
>>>> give a quarter turn and it's done.
>>>> far far less stress on the electrical connection point.
>>>> Perhaps the BNC might endure more strain or stress because it sticks
>>>> out
>>>> further from the chassis of the radio, but this is compensated for by
>>>> the
>>>> fact that the mounting is far more rugged compared to a female SMA
>>>> connecter.
>>>> commercial radios, and some of the newer commercial/ham radios from
>>>> china
>>>> use a male SMA on the radio, and this reduces allot of the above
>>>> mentioned
>>>> problems inherent with an SMA connecter.
>>>> If the antenna snaps off, you can easily replace the antenna instead of
>>>> having to send the radioin for repares.
>>>> Whereas the tradditional radio female connecter will snap off with the
>>>> antenna in most cases and requires costly repares.
>>>>
>>>> All that said, personal experience is what you have and if your
>>>> satisfied
>>>> with your own observations, then that is good.
>>>>
>>>> but just try to remember this the next time someone posts to the list
>>>> about
>>>> another sma snapping off the radio when it is dropped or impacted.
>>>> In 6 years of being on this particular hams list, I've never heard of
>>>> that
>>>> happening to a BNC connecter on an HT.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Colin, V A6BKX
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Michael Thurman" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 3:24 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: HT suggestions please
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> well i can tell you having had radios with both there is nothign wrong
>>>>> =
>>>>> with sma in fact I have found sma connectors to e more rugged than
>>>>> bnc
>>>>> =
>>>>> :) and they feel more solid ont he ht thanthe old bnc antennas that =
>>>>> tended to wobble and wiggle around
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 2, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Dan B Dyer Jr,/Danny wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there even any multiband HT that's made today that has BNC rather
>>>>>> =
>>>>> than=20
>>>>>> SMA? Singlebanders, yes, but multibanders? I don't know of any. =
>>>>> Danny.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>>>> From: "Jeff Kenyon" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 4:05 PM
>>>>>> Subject: HT suggestions please
>>>>>>=20
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>>>>>>> Hi everyone, I am thinking of purchasing a new HT. I think that my
>>>>>>> =
>>>>> F6A =3D
>>>>>>> has just about had it, and If I do decide to go a head and get a new
>>>>>>> =
>>>>> one =3D
>>>>>>> I want one with a BNC connector since all of my other radios have
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> =
>>>>> =3D
>>>>>>> BNC connector, and the F6A is the only one with SMA. Any
>>>>>>> suggestions
>>>>>>> =
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>>>>>>> would be helpful, and thanks in advance.
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