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Hi: It has occurred to me that replies about this should probably be
sent directly to me rather than clogging up the list.
I'll apreciate all of the replies I can get from those of you who try
it, this agency is particularly stuborn about accessibility and I
will, unfortunately, have to move this through a couple of departments
(Maine State DOT and maybe US DOT) in order to get them to change. I
maintain that these PDF schedules are a violation of Section 508 and
thus, the grant monies the organization receives are jeopardized by
the violation.
Again, replying directly to me would be helpful and not clog the list.
Thanks,

On 2/8/11, Catherine Getchell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi there,
> I'm guessing they converted an Excel spreadsheet to PDF or something.  My
> own public transportation agency, www.septa.org, has schedules in PDF for
> the sighted people, but they also make them available within the browser as
> a regular table for those of us for whom PDF schedules don't work well.  My
> guess is your local agency could maybe do the same thing, either making them
> available as Excel files or allowing them to be accessed directly within the
> web browser.  I, like you, haven't had good luck with trying to read PDF
> schedules.  They make no sense.
> Catherine Getchell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marcia Yale" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 8:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] Question About a PDF
>
>
>>I am using NVDA and the PDF is, as you say, a dog's breakfast--according to
>> NVDA this is not a table. If it were, it might be possible to move through
>> the columns and figure out where the times go, but the way it is now it is
>> impossible to use.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Hoad
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 8:11 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [VICUG-L] Question About a PDF
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> Recently a community action agency transportation program has posted new
>> schedules. They are in PDF format.
>>
>> I have downloaded them to view, changing my Adobe reader settings to
>> "left to right" and then to "raw print" and in any of the 3 settings
>> available I  am unable to make sense of them. Would you characterize
>> these as accessible? If so, what version of the reader and other
>> software are you using?
>>
>> The link is "Augusta Schedule". it leads directly to the PDF.
>> Thanks for any feedback, I am trying to work with these people to
>> make these schedules better and easier to use.
>> Your impressions would be welcomed.
>> Their transportation page is here and it contains the schedule link.
>> http://www.kvcap.org/trans-index.php
>>
>> --
>> posting from Emma's Family Farm,
>> Windsor Maine;
>> Steve Hoad
>> See what we're doing on the Farm at
>> http://twitter.com/TheHoads
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