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i have been using computers since 1978.

i have to agree strongly with everett.

i am a fan of the ipod touch with is an iphone without the phone, which 
means that it is just the computer part of the iphone.
so i am telling you that a main frame is a computer, my radio shack m50 
that just runs basic is a computer, my old dos machine and my new mac mini 
are computers, my very old sharp talking calculator is a computer, a 
digital watch is a computer and an iphone is a computer.

so if this list has any interest in staying relevant, then you have to 
embrace what is current.
or i will start re-posting my questions about my 5 inch floppy and 300 
baud modem problems.

pete


On Sat, 5 Jan 2013, Everett Gavel wrote:

> Hi Ana, and all,
>
> No worries, I didn't take your post as snippy. I hope no one will take my 
> response as anything more than the friendly response it's meant to be, to 
> give an alternate point-of-view.
>
> I'd like to take a minute and share my recently developed notion on my 
> 3.5-month-old iPhone, since it has been brought up in relation to being 
> proper or not on a computer list. An iPhone is more of a computer than my 
> recently exterminated 10-year-old PC.
>
> I enjoy this list and the people n it. It's got much less junk put through 
> here than on a few other lists I'm on. But this list is named, "VICUG," which 
> is an acronym for Visually Impaired Computer Users Group. Below I'll share 
> why I believe the iPhone is merely the latest version of a computer that's 
> taking market share, and it's far more accessible than any off-the-shelf 
> computer in history.
>
> It is merely my opinion, but I'd argue with anyone that an iPhone is easily 
> considered a handheld "laptop" computer. Merely a newer, smaller version of 
> the original PC. Yes, I get the differences between PC & Mac, but that's not 
> what I'm referring to here. They're both, unarguably, computers.
>
> I've had an iPhone for almost 4 months now, and I've recently come to realize 
> it really is a handheld computer. I've now downloaded to my iPhone all the 
> programs I used regularly on my PC. I've now got E-mail, Facebook, Skype, 
> Twitter, and LinkedIn. I've got PayPal, Amazon, & eBay on my iPhone as well. 
> I've got the WeatherChannel and the WeatherBug, I have Spotify, Pandora, and 
> Netflix on my iPhone now, too.
>
> I've got Bloomberg, CNBC, and some stock-trading apps as well. I've got even 
> more than I had on my PC, though, too. I've now got GPS navigating programs, 
> barcode scanning programs, OCR, print-to-speech programs, Newsline, the Wall 
> Street Journal, and the Washington Post. I've also got unlimited-length audio 
> recording programs that can record meetings and classes for me. Apps are 
> simply another, newer name for "programs."
>
> I've also got Quickbooks, Evernote, GoogleMaps, Dropbox, and GoogleEarth on 
> my iPhone. Then there's the simpler stuff like Notetakers, reminders, alarms, 
> and a built-in Web browser too. It's most everything and more that I used 
> regularly via my PC just months ago, but now use on my iPhone -- no matter 
> where I am. It's merely a hand-held, portable computer. And it's very 
> accessible to the blind, for a much lesser cost than a typical PC + Assistive 
> Tech software costs.
>
> Yes, the iPhone is a computer. I'd argue that being a phone is merely the 
> tool that it used to get into and take over a market share, very 
> successfully. But the phone aspect of it is not what it truly is. It is 
> merely part of it. Anyway, that's my story, er, opinion, and I'm stickin' to 
> it. ;-)
>
> BTW, Happy New Year to each of you here! May 2013 end as your best year yet!
>
>
> Seize the Day!
> Everett
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> Hi all,
>> My intension isn't to sound snippy, but I have the feeling that I'll sound 
>> snippy anyway.
>> This is a great list for help on computer related issues. There are 
>> occasional digressions, but I don't mind them because the content is 
>> generally interesting and often indirectly relevant.
>> Lately a lot of messages have come through the list about iPhone apps. some 
>> of the messages are indeed worth reading. the announcement about 
>> BrailleTouch, an app which allows braille input via a touch screen, is a 
>> great example because I can imagine such technology eventually making it to 
>> computer mouse pads, but I think most iPhone related messages don't belong 
>> here. It might be a good idea for the sender to connect them to the main 
>> focus of the list before posting.
>> Just my two cents.
>> Ana
>> 
>
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