Gerry:

The radiating element of the 160 sloper is 68 feet long, and the radiating 
element of the 80-meter one is about half that length, I believe.

The rest of the length is made up of the loading coil for each antenna, and 
the counterpoise which is connected to ground.

For more information, go to:

www.w8amz.com

This is all very experimental for me at this point, and I know I'm not 
giving you the most complete information. ... I'll have more details later.

73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerry Leary" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: Small dilemma; Need some advice


> Tom, How long are the new antennas?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 6:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Small dilemma; Need some advice
>
>
>>    Pat:
>>
>> I believe my answer to your question, if I understand it correctly is
>> "yes".
>>
>> My understanding of these antennas is that there is a main radiating
>> element
>> that is connected to a coil that is wound for the particular band in
>> question.  In my case, one antenna is for 80 and the other is for 160.
>>
>> On the other end of that coil is a counterpoise wire that is then
>> connected
>> to ground.
>>
>> The ground, supposedly, is the all-important thing that makes the antenna
>> actually work.
>>
>> This was all new to me last week-end, too.
>>
>> The guy I bought the antennas from is w8amz, from Muskegon, Michigan.
>>
>> His web site is:
>>
>> www.w8amz.com
>>
>> 73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Pat Byrne" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 3:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: Small dilemma; Need some advice
>>
>>
>>> Is a mast enough "missing other side" for a sloper Tom?  Somewhere I
>>> was led to believe that something with more "mass" to it would be
>>> necessary.  Opens up new choices for me!!
>>> Thanks.
>>> Pat, K9JAU
>>> By the way; just worked an Alaskan, first call out of the box on ten
>>> with the Carolina Windem up perhaps thirty-five feet.  Ten sounds
>>> absolutely excellent.At 09:17 AM 10/22/2011, you wrote:
>>>>     Thanks, Howard.
>>>>
>>>>Time will tell, I'm sure.
>>>>
>>>>73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Howard, W A 9 Y B W" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:16 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: Small dilemma; Need some advice
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Hi Tom,
>>>> >
>>>> > In my experience, if you use a good electrical tape such as the 3M 
>>>> > #33
>>>> > tape
>>>> > it will last for years.
>>>> >
>>>> > Howard, #3 W A 9 Y B W
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Tom Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:30 PM
>>>> > Subject: Small dilemma; Need some advice
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> Hi, all.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Well, to make a very long story short, I have decided to take my
>>>> >> troublesome
>>>> >> Carolina Windom 160 compact antenna down, and am in the process of
>>>> >> replacing
>>>> >> it with a 160-meter sloper, and an 80-meter sloper that I purchased
>>>> >> at
>>>> >> a
>>>> >> swap in my area last week-end.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We are in the middle of the antenna replacement process, but I'm
>>>> >> hoping
>>>> >> it
>>>> >> should be done by later tomorrow.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> All has gone well, except for one small issue, which I'm torn about
>>>> >> how
>>>> >> to
>>>> >> deal with.  This is the kind of issue where we've all been there 
>>>> >> when
>>>> >> trying
>>>> >> to deal with volunteer help who doesn't do things like we would.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Anyway, my friend installed the 160-meter sloper at the top of my
>>>> >> 40-foot
>>>> >> mast, but when I asked him how he sealed the coax connection at the
>>>> >> feed
>>>> >> point, he said that he coated the connector with a dialectric 
>>>> >> grease,
>>>> >> and
>>>> >> then tightly wrapped three layers of electrical tape around the
>>>> >> connection.
>>>> >> The tape he used was some real good 3 M tape that I had gotten a
>>>> >> while
>>>> >> ago.
>>>> >> I had wanted him to put coax seal on top of the tape, but he would
>>>> >> not
>>>> >> do
>>>> >> it, arguing that what he did should be fine.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Obviously, my concern is that the electrical tape eventually will
>>>> >> deteriorate, and let water into the connection.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I'm trying to figure out a tactful way to bring up this issue again
>>>> >> with
>>>> >> him
>>>> >> when he comes back tomorrow, but, at the same time, I don't want to
>>>> >> offend
>>>> >> him, since he has done so much for me already.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Does anyone have any ideas as to how to tactfully handle the
>>>> >> situation?
>>>> >> Obviously, if just having the electrical tape was good enough, I
>>>> >> wouldn't
>>>> >> stress about it, but I would sure hate to be introducing unnecessary
>>>> >> problems into the situation here.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>>>> >
>>>
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