Hi,
I am glad I am not the only person who feels this way about Echolink.
Ifind it distracting to be conducting a Net and have someone check in right over someone else.
Besides which I do not like the fact that some stations just sound so awful and so difficult to understand.
Colleen, N8TNV;
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Canazzi <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2011 21:59:17
Subject: Re: dumbing down
>
>
> Hi List,
>
> My big problem with Echo Link is that it was 'impolite.' Unless this has
> changed recently, when someone logs onto a repeater whereon there is a
> conversation, the identification mechanism sounds right over the top of an
> ongoing conversation. This is unlike ILRP whereon the identifier itself
> never sounds and a person can connect where the tones are not heard and
> there is a gap before you can speak.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 3:03 PM
> Subject: Re: dumbing down
>
>
> The problem is there are many more like them, including the majority of a
> club I left a couple years for it, plus I don't have the room, equipment, or
> patience anymore not to mention it left such a bad taste in my mouth as did
> that club which is shrinking rapidly I hear it's a lot better for me to just
> be against the whole thing. It's not radio or what I'd hope most get their
> license for anyway. I'll put my efforts in to getting more users on my 900
> MHz repeater and promoting people getting on the air and actually feel good
> about myself instead.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Thurman" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:39 PM
> Subject: Re: dumbing down
>
>
> > you must ot have looked into the security settings you can see who is =
> > causing a problem and ban them fromconnecting you can also restrict =
> > connections to certain countries or prefixes quite easily so put it =
> > back up and block the idiots
> >
> > On May 4, 2011, at 2:34 PM, Gary Tillinghast wrote:
> >
> >ar It is another tool in the toolbox.
> >ar ----- Original Message -----=20
> >ar From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> >ar To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >ar Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:27 PM
> >ar Subject: Re: dumbing down
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >ar Some know it as echolink but due to some true lowlifes who are the =
> > reason I
> >ar took my simplex link system down I'll forever call it, in mixed =
> > company
> >ar lowlifelink, in my circles and in person I call it and those =
> > particular
> >ar users and others just like them something much more accurate and =
> > worse.
> >ar ----- Original Message -----=20
> >ar From: "Ron Canazzi" <[log in to unmask]>
> >ar To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >ar Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:11 PM
> >ar Subject: Re: dumbing down
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >>> Hi John,
> >>>=20
> >>> What is lowlifellink his
> >>>=20
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:50 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: dumbing down
> >>>=20
> >>>=20
> >>> I agree, in fact, due to the very pour judgment of putting =
> > lowlifellink on
> >>> a
> >>> repeater, I'll be giving up my VP slot in one club soon because I =
> > can't
> >>> stand to listen to that repeater though if they pull it and put it on =
> > one
> >>> of
> >>> the other machines I can't do much with from here I may reconsider so =
> > long
> >>> as my name doesn't appear too many places but I'd doubt it. When I =
> > was
> >>> president of a club around here I monitored that repeater so much I =
> > was
> >>> given the codes and made a co-trusty, or a backup one and I still =
> > monitor
> >>> that one though I'm not an officer in that club anymore, I'm still =
> > very
> >>> active. Both clubs the officers are active at least on the club =
> > repeaters,
> >>> often everywhere which is how it should be, I think it should be a
> >>> requirement to run for office.
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:47 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: dumbing down
> >>>=20
> >>>=20
> >>>> that drives me nuts when big players in a club don't actually have
> >>>> anything
> >>>> to do with "radio"
> >>>> Or if they're never on the air.
> >>>> Around here it's mostly because they are members of a bunch of clubs =
> > and
> >>>> just don't have the time between work, family and club events.
> >>>> It also bugs me when they are expected to make decisions about the =
> > club's
> >>>> operations, without having a clue of the feeling of the general
> >>>> membership...bbc they don't turn a radio on and listen to the
> >>>> membership
> >>>> talking about stuff on the club machines.
> >>>> Our entire executive with our club might get an hour of PTT time a =
> > week
> >>>> between all of them.
> >>>> And most of that is talking about other drivers, the pot holes, and =
> > the
> >>>> weather on the way to and from work on the freeway.
> >>>>=20
> >>>> I figure if your going to be part of a club, and that club operates
> >>>> repeaters designed for use by the membership, then you should, =
> > especially
> >>>> if
> >>>> you are a director or part of the operations team or an executive, =
> > make a
> >>>> special effort to at least monitor the club machines to keep an ear =
> > open
> >>>> to
> >>>> the membership and the general goings on within the ham community in =
> > your
> >>>> area.
> >>>> If you abhor clubs, then don't ever get into a ham club...the gosip =
> > and
> >>>> politics, and separate agenda's are like bad junior high.
> >>>>=20
> >>>> 73
> >>>> Colin, V A6BKX
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>> From: "Richard Fiorello" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 4:11 PM
> >>>> Subject: dumbing down
> >>>>=20
> >>>>=20
> >>>>> I just can't resist. I don't think things have dumbed down at all =
> > just
> >>>>> changed. I'm not talking so much about the exams but day to day
> >>>>> activity. Radio has become more and more computer dependant =
> > whether I
> >>>>> like it or not. My drake trbled back in 1973 didn't know what a menu =
> > was.
> >>>>> It was wonderful.
> >>>>> As someone else very correctly mentioned problems are made worse by =
> > the
> >>>>> fact that more and more hams are living in locations where antennas =
> > are
> >>>>> a problem. Also the average age in many clubs is getting much =
> > older and
> >>>>> there just isn't that zest to tackle that 60 foot tower.
> >>>>> In my locality I have found that eager helpers for those projects I =
> > find
> >>>>> challenging aren't nearly as available as they were in yester year.
> >>>>> Partially because life is more busy and partially because many =
> > folks
> >>>>> just aren't up to the task.
> >>>>> The club I belong to has a number of extras who have no station and
> >>>>> other than limited club activity haven't operated from their own =
> > qth.
> >>>>> Something really dumb like a requirement to work all states prior =
> > to
> >>>>> taking the extra exam would start a lively debate.
> >>>>> The club president who teaches classes for new hams has no station =
> > or
> >>>>> antenna.
> >>>>> I don't think he is into echo link either. Ham radio for the sake =
> > of
> >>>>> ham radio without ever turning on a radio is a interesting thought.
> >>>>>=20
> >>>>> --=20
> >>>>> richard=20
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