Some know it as echolink but due to some true lowlifes who are the reason I 
took my simplex link system down I'll forever call it, in mixed company 
lowlifelink, in my circles and in person I call it and those particular 
users and others just like them something much more accurate and worse.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Canazzi" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: dumbing down


> Hi John,
>
> What is lowlifellink ?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:50 AM
> Subject: Re: dumbing down
>
>
> I agree, in fact, due to the very pour judgment of putting lowlifellink on 
> a
> repeater, I'll be giving up my VP slot in one club soon because I can't
> stand to listen to that repeater though if they pull it and put it on one 
> of
> the other machines I can't do much with from here I may reconsider so long
> as my name doesn't appear too many places but I'd doubt it. When I was
> president of a club around here I monitored that repeater so much I was
> given the codes and made a co-trusty, or a backup one and I still monitor
> that one though I'm not an officer in that club anymore, I'm still very
> active. Both clubs the officers are active at least on the club repeaters,
> often everywhere which is how it should be, I think it should be a
> requirement to run for office.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:47 AM
> Subject: Re: dumbing down
>
>
>> that drives me nuts when big players in a club don't actually have
>> anything
>> to do with "radio"
>> Or if they're never on the air.
>> Around here it's mostly because they are members of a bunch of clubs and
>> just don't have the time between work, family and club events.
>> It also bugs me when they are expected to make decisions about the club's
>> operations, without having a clue of the feeling of the general
>> membership...because they don't turn a radio on and listen to the
>> membership
>> talking about stuff on the club machines.
>> Our entire executive with our club might get an hour of PTT time a week
>> between all of them.
>> And most of that is talking about other drivers, the pot holes, and the
>> weather on the way to and from work on the freeway.
>>
>> I figure if your going to be part of a club, and that club operates
>> repeaters designed for use by the membership, then you should, especially
>> if
>> you are a director or part of the operations team or an executive, make a
>> special effort to at least monitor the club machines to keep an ear open
>> to
>> the membership and the general goings on within the ham community in your
>> area.
>> If you abhor clubs, then don't ever get into a ham club...the gosip and
>> politics, and separate agenda's are like bad junior high.
>>
>> 73
>> Colin, V A6BKX
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Richard Fiorello" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 4:11 PM
>> Subject: dumbing down
>>
>>
>>>I just can't resist.  I don't think things have  dumbed down at all just
>>> changed.  I'm not talking so much about the exams but day to day
>>> activity.  Radio has become more and more computer dependant whether I
>>> like it or not.  My drake tr4 back in 1973 didn't know what a menu was.
>>> It was wonderful.
>>> As someone else very correctly mentioned problems are made worse by the
>>> fact that more and more hams are living in locations where antennas are
>>> a problem.  Also the average age in many clubs is getting much older and
>>> there just isn't that zest to tackle that 60 foot tower.
>>> In my locality I have found that eager helpers for those projects I find
>>> challenging aren't nearly as available as they were in yester year.
>>> Partially because life is more busy and partially because many folks
>>> just aren't up to the task.
>>> The club I belong to has a number of extras who have no station and
>>> other than limited club activity haven't operated from their own qth.
>>> Something really dumb like a requirement to work all states prior to
>>> taking the extra exam would start a lively debate.
>>> The club president who teaches classes for new hams has no station or
>>> antenna.
>>> I don't think he is into echo link either.  Ham radio for the sake of
>>> ham radio without ever turning on a radio is a interesting thought.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> richard