Funny, heights do bother me. I'll do my own antenna work if I have to, but I
really don't care for heights and I can't see. Some don't understand that
but I keep telling them, I still know where I am, weather I can see or not.
30 feet high is still 30 feet high, down is still down.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Malmgren" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: Dumbing down, was Re: Selling Gear Online
> Hi Tom, speaking of antenna work, I used to put towers and beams up for
> some
> of my friends and some would say, It don't bother you climbing because you
> can't see the ground. I would tell them, then why don't you go around
> sticking your finger in a light socket, you can't see the electricity.
> Any
> way, life is full of crazy stuff hi hi.
> Ed K7UC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Brennan" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 7:28 PM
> Subject: Re: Dumbing down, was Re: Selling Gear Online
>
>
>> Oh, the idea of putting up antennas being too difficult being a problem
>> is
>> rather interesting since withy newer antennas its less of a problem than
>> its
>> been in the past and I've never heard that used as an excuse for much of
>> anything.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> Tom Brennan KD5VIJ, CCC-A/SLP
>> web page http://titan.sfasu.edu/~g_brennantg/sonicpage.html
>>
>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011, Steve Dresser wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 17:04:45 -0400
>>> From: Steve Dresser <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Reply-To: For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Dumbing down, was Re: Selling Gear Online
>>>
>>> Buddy,
>>>
>>> Despite the no-code license, there seems to be a die-hard bunch of
>>> devoted
>>> CW operators. If we want to look at why ham radio is dying (and I think
>>> it
>>> is to some extent), it's because there are so many other ways to
>>> communicate--cell phones and the Internet, for example. All that said,
>>> though, people seem to find ways to enjoy the hobby if they're truly
>>> interested.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Buddy Brannan" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 16:26
>>> Subject: Dumbing down, was Re: Selling Gear Online
>>>
>>>
>>> > Oh boy, here we go. So, passing a code test pases on interest in hf? =
>>> > That's a bit convoluted. I agree that the tests have gotten easier. I
>>> > =
>>> > was also one of the first to get up in arms when we got our first =
>>> > codeless license. I was, however, also one of the first to admit that
>>> > I
>>> > =
>>> > was wrong about the codeless tech brnging an end to my beloved hobby.
>>> > =
>>> > The hobby's been dying now since the introduction of the Novice
>>> > license
>>> > =
>>> > in 1951, if not before. And it's still alive and well. You don't think
>>> > =
>>> > the difficulty in erecting hf antennas, owing to cc&r's and HOA's,
>>> > might =
>>> > not have something to do with the seemling lack of interest in HF
>>> > gear?=20=
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I, for one, have observed that when people talk about "dumbing down",
>>> > =
>>> > what that really means is "Things aren't the same as they were back =
>>> > in*my(*day." Believe me, I can be as curmudgeonly as the next guy. I =
>>> > didn't dub myself "the world's youngest old fart" years ago for
>>> > nothing, =
>>> > you know. But change is inevitable. Roll with it.=20
>>> >
>>> > And, more to the point, has anyone else noticed that the people who =
>>> > often holler the loudest about how the tests are dumbed down and we =
>>> > should still have a code requirement, aren't cw ops? Interesting.=20
>>> > --
>>> > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>> > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Apr 30, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Tom Brennan wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Steve, unfortunately we're seeing the result of the no code and =
>>> > dumbing down of
>>> >> the tests. Now we've got a bunch of techs that are only interested
>>> >> in
>>> >> =
>>> > 2m
>>> >> repeaters. I'd think that online selling of gear would be fairly
>>> >> easy
>>> >> =
>>> > either
>>> >> through Ebay or even through this list or sales lists run by sites =
>>> > such as QRZ
>>> >> etc.
>>> >>=20
>>> >> Tom
>>> >>=20
>>> >>=20
>>> >> Tom Brennan KD5VIJ, CCC-A/SLP
>>> >> web page http://titan.sfasu.edu/~g_brennantg/sonicpage.html
>>> >>=20
>>> >> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011, Steve Matzura wrote:
>>> >>=20
>>> >>> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 14:56:01 -0400
>>> >>> From: Steve Matzura <[log in to unmask]>
>>> >>> Reply-To: For blind ham radio operators =
>>> > <[log in to unmask]>
>>> >>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> >>> Subject: Selling Gear Online
>>> >>>=20
>>> >>> Where's the best place to go to put some gear for sale online? =
>>> > Someone
>>> >>> I know has a relative who's giving up the hobby because they'll be
>>> >>> moving into an assisted living facility and will have no space or
>>> >>> other wherewithal to work the hobby other than via either a handheld
>>> >>> or a mobile rig with a magmount out the window. I'm told he have =
>>> > quite
>>> >>> a modern HF station, but have no specifics as to what gear is =
>>> > actually
>>> >>> involved. Funny thing, the ham wanted to donate it to a local club
>>> >>> or
>>> >>> school, but the few takers he could find were only interested in
>>> >>> VHF/UHF gear. Any recommendations greatly appreciated and will be
>>> >>> passed along.
>>> >>>=20
>>> >
>>>
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