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Ed Malmgren <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 30 Apr 2011 19:50:40 -0600
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Hi Tom, speaking of antenna work, I used to put towers and beams up for some 
of my friends and some would say, It don't bother you climbing because you 
can't see the ground.  I would tell them, then why don't you go around 
sticking your finger in a light socket, you can't see the electricity.  Any 
way, life is full of crazy stuff hi hi.
Ed  K7UC
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Brennan" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: Dumbing down, was Re: Selling Gear Online


> Oh, the idea of putting up antennas being too difficult being a problem is
> rather interesting since withy newer antennas its less of a problem than 
> its
> been in the past and I've never heard that used as an excuse for much of
> anything.
>
> Tom
>
>
> Tom Brennan  KD5VIJ, CCC-A/SLP
> web page http://titan.sfasu.edu/~g_brennantg/sonicpage.html
>
> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011, Steve Dresser wrote:
>
>> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 17:04:45 -0400
>> From: Steve Dresser <[log in to unmask]>
>> Reply-To: For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Dumbing down, was Re: Selling Gear Online
>>
>> Buddy,
>>
>> Despite the no-code license, there seems to be a die-hard bunch of 
>> devoted
>> CW operators.  If we want to look at why ham radio is dying (and I think 
>> it
>> is to some extent), it's because there are so many other ways to
>> communicate--cell phones and the Internet, for example.  All that said,
>> though, people seem to find ways to enjoy the hobby if they're truly
>> interested.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Buddy Brannan" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 16:26
>> Subject: Dumbing down, was Re: Selling Gear Online
>>
>>
>> > Oh boy, here we go. So, passing a code test pases on interest in hf? =
>> > That's a bit convoluted. I agree that the tests have gotten easier. I =
>> > was also one of the first to get up in arms when we got our first =
>> > codeless license. I was, however, also one of the first to admit that I 
>> > =
>> > was wrong about the codeless tech brnging an end to my beloved hobby. =
>> > The hobby's been dying now since the introduction of the Novice license 
>> > =
>> > in 1951, if not before. And it's still alive and well. You don't think 
>> > =
>> > the difficulty in erecting hf antennas, owing to cc&r's and HOA's, 
>> > might =
>> > not have something to do with the seemling lack of interest in HF
>> > gear?=20=
>> >
>> >
>> > I, for one, have observed that when people talk about "dumbing down", =
>> > what that really means is "Things aren't the same as they were back =
>> > in*my(*day." Believe me, I can be as curmudgeonly as the next guy. I =
>> > didn't dub myself "the world's youngest old fart" years ago for 
>> > nothing, =
>> > you know. But change is inevitable. Roll with it.=20
>> >
>> > And, more to the point, has anyone else noticed that the people who =
>> > often holler the loudest about how the tests are dumbed down and we =
>> > should still have a code requirement, aren't cw ops? Interesting.=20
>> > --
>> > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Apr 30, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Tom Brennan wrote:
>> >
>> >> Steve, unfortunately we're seeing the result of the no code and =
>> > dumbing down of
>> >> the tests.  Now we've got a bunch of techs that are only interested in 
>> >> =
>> > 2m
>> >> repeaters.  I'd think that online selling of gear would be fairly easy 
>> >> =
>> > either
>> >> through Ebay or even through this list or sales lists run by sites =
>> > such as QRZ
>> >> etc.
>> >>=20
>> >> Tom
>> >>=20
>> >>=20
>> >> Tom Brennan  KD5VIJ, CCC-A/SLP
>> >> web page http://titan.sfasu.edu/~g_brennantg/sonicpage.html
>> >>=20
>> >> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011, Steve Matzura wrote:
>> >>=20
>> >>> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 14:56:01 -0400
>> >>> From: Steve Matzura <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>> Reply-To: For blind ham radio operators =
>> > <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> >>> Subject: Selling Gear Online
>> >>>=20
>> >>> Where's the best place to go to put some gear for sale online? =
>> > Someone
>> >>> I know has a relative who's giving up the hobby because they'll be
>> >>> moving into an assisted living facility and will have no space or
>> >>> other wherewithal to work the hobby other than via either a handheld
>> >>> or a mobile rig with a magmount out the window. I'm told he have =
>> > quite
>> >>> a modern HF station, but have no specifics as to what gear is =
>> > actually
>> >>> involved. Funny thing, the ham wanted to donate it to a local club or
>> >>> school, but the few takers he could find were only interested in
>> >>> VHF/UHF gear. Any recommendations greatly appreciated and will be
>> >>> passed along.
>> >>>=20
>> >
>> 

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