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John Miller <[log in to unmask]>
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I don't even believe in weather reports so I don't believe in any of that 
stuff either.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brandon Hennis" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Solar flare and Calamities, Not So Fast!


> and now that whole thing too that comes to mind is the prediction of o
> the world is going to end in 2012, again, ,not likely to happen.  you
> know sometimew I wonder, where in blazes do they get these predictions
> from, because logicly, you would have to have a source that would
> cause you to make a prediction of sourts I'd think, given the way that
> it's being predicted, the volosity, ,and the fear as one can easily
> document that it is putting others in.  I wonder how many of you have
> had the question of, are the predictions worth reading, or is there
> some tactic to get us to fear.  the way I look at it is this, think
> what you may, but if half the predictions that people came up with
> were logical, they'd have happened.  Hope that sheds some light on the
> subject.
> Brandon Hennis, KC0USM
> skype:
> Cuddleybear1986
> On Feb 17, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
>
>> Hi Martin,
>>
>> Good to see a bit of perspective on this issue.  In 1989, there was a
>> serious issue with a sever solar storm.  But time has not stood
>> still since
>> then.  More recently launched satellites have been hardened to
>> withstand
>> greater solar activity.   Some though certainly not all power grids
>> have
>> been strengthened against such events.  Anything is possible.  We
>> could walk
>> out the door tomorrow and one of us could theoretically be hit on
>> the head
>> by a meteorite large enough to kill us.  I wouldn't waste time
>> worrying
>> about it.
>>
>> Just think of all the things predicted in the past several decades
>> that
>> didn't happen.
>>
>> In 1970, The Late Great Planet Earth predicted  the tribulation and
>> end of
>> the age by 1988; didn't happen but made Hal Lindsey several tens of
>> millions
>> of dollars.
>> In 1989, Father Malachi martin assured us that a blaming bolloid would
>> strike the earth on or about June 28, and destroy civilization--evil
>> for its
>> acceptance of homosexuality (we weren't burning them at the stake in
>> 1989)
>>
>> Heaven's gate, Jonestown, ETC. ETC. and so on.
>>
>> And then there was y2k; enough said!
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Martin McCormick" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:31 PM
>> Subject: Solar flare and Calamities, Not So Fast!
>>
>>
>> I read the link recently posted about the Solar flare. It is
>> pretty good, but we should be careful about dire warnings. We
>> have had bad Solar storms in the past and they did, in fact,
>> disrupt some power and telecommunications systems but it is more
>> likely to be annoying and frustrating than disastrous. Some
>> Solar storms disrupt the Earth's magnetic field and make it seem
>> to move around. The huge Solar storm in 1989 actually caused
>> magnetic compasses in the North Sea to be off by as much as 5
>> degrees which made Petrobium operations in the North Sea stop
>> for a while.
>>
>> What can happen when the magnetic field varies is that
>> long runs of wire such as telephone and electrical cables start
>> to behave like generators. One would see low DC voltages at high
>> currents begin to ebb and flow in the wires. It is possible to
>> reach several amps of what might look like DC on the wire. The
>> current would rise and fall and reverse polarity so you could
>> really call it an ultra-low-frequency alternating current.
>>
>> A really bad thing that would not immediately be
>> apparent is that electrical currents would also try to flow in
>> long pipelines under ground and water and those currents would cause
>> electrolysis of the metal which could eventually lead to early
>> failure.
>>
>> As for 2012, the only Solar disturbances we can predict
>> are the ones we just had. In other words, we can't predict
>> individual events ten minutes from now much less a year.
>>
>> As for those big currents in long wires, they are more
>> likely to occur in the far North and the far South as
>> geomagnetic disturbances cause more disruption in Polar regions
>> than they do in most of the world.
>>
>> The power systems that have been effected suffered
>> interesting failures such as tripped breakers and maybe even the
>> magnetic saturation of the iron cores in power transformers, but
>> they were able to restore power eventually.
>>
>> I am saying, annoying and possibly expensive, yes but
>> cataclysmic ending of civilization, not likely.
>>
>> Martin 

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