Yeah that's true. Seems like you almost have to have some speech feedback
these days.
-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of John Miller
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 7:21 PM
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Subject: Re: ft-897d
The biggest problem with no speech is going beyond your privileges, I
suppose if you have the top license class for your country and the radio
isn't modified to transmit out of band, that's not a huge concern but I
wouldn't want to risk it and that's very possible on HF unless there's a
work around which there usually is I suppose, but I hate having to depend on
someone else to help setup a radio or tying it to a computer.
----- Original Message -----
From: "colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: ft-897d
> two things.
> Firstly, I understand the attitude. I agree with it. There is little
> to no reason that I know of why Yaesu can't put speech synth
> capability into all their radios. It's cheap, and exceedingly simple
> considering icom and kenwood both do it on their cheapest radios.
> Secondly, just because a radio doesn't speak some functions does not
> mean it is "unaccessible" to use as a blind person.
> Perhaps one doesn't have the audio feedback, but that does not mean
> one cannot use the radio for what it is designed to do...IE talking on
> and listening to others talk.
> we can all memorize menu sequences, button presses, panel layouts all
> that stuff...we've all done it on one device or other weather it's a
> microwave, or a sell phone or some other operating system or menu
> driven device...we learn it and sometimes, if possible, get sighted
> help to do initial set up...or at least, to get the initial panel
> layout or help navigating until we remember what does what.
> We all tend to rely on audio feedback when it's availible to confirm
> what we are doing or what button we've pressed or whatever.
> Once you figure out which buttons to press to perform the functions
> you want, then they're going to keep doing that everytime you press
> them...the radio isn't going to suddenly change on you and alter all
> it's button functions.
> Map it out, play with it, memorize it and off you go.
> I mean we do this with the Kenwood and Icom HT's..we learn them and
> use them. Why can we not do this and be comfortable doing this on an HF
rig?
> Yes, I know other rigs offer speech and so on, but to say a radio is
> unusable, or inaccessible just because it doesn't talk like other rigs
> is kind of strange to me.
> My preference too is to have a radio with a speech synth. But, that
> doesn't mean I would totally dismiss out of hand a radio that doesn't.
> Especially if it was given to me.
> However, all that said, you could probably still trade it in on a
> kenwood or icom rig that does offer speech. You could potentially
> trade it in on an Icom IC7000 that does offer speech and isn't a
> terribly difficult radio to learn if you play with it long enough.
> The FT450 has great reviews. it is small and has an excellent
> receiver apparently.
> You could most definitely trade the 897 directly across for that rig
> since it is retailed cheaper than the 897.
> I've played with an ft450 and for the five mins I spent with it, I got
> the hang of it very quickly with little to no assistance.
> it's only HF plus 6 meters though. There is a model with an antenna
> tuner as well.
> 73
> Colin V A6BKX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 2:09 PM
> Subject: Re: ft-897d
>
>
>>I don't think we're saying they're not good radios, although even
>>Yaesu fans admit they have quality control problems, but the point
>>I'm making is accessibility. I don't care if it is the best radio
>>ever made and it only costs two hundred dollars, if it isn't
>>accessible to me, what good is it to me? I haven't seen the radio I
>>won, but so far from what folks have written, it won't do me much
>>good which makes me sad as it covers 160 through 440 and has a lot of
>>bang for the buck. My main problem with Yaesu is their attitude ow
>>unwillingness to put in speech. I guess the 450 has it, but none
>>before have and the technology is cheap and been around for years.
>>My 440 I bought back in 85 had a speech option. The last Yaesu I
>>owned, I think was a 980, not sure of the number, owned it back in
>>early 80s. I owned it for a year and 6 months out of that year it
>>spent in the shop. I just wish I'd won a radio that talked.
>> 73
>> Butch Bussen
>> wa0vjr
>> open Node 3148
>> Las Vegas
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