Somehow, he survived, I don't know how, we never even knew he did it until I
went to get something that fell down back there and made my shocking
discovery, but there's no other way that cord should have got chewed like
that where it did unless the rabbit or kittens did it and the kittens never
have developed a taste for wires, the rabbit though, that's another story.
the way the wires are all tied up I thought out of his reach, there's no way
they got caught in anything it had to be the rabbit.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Forst" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: RFI Saga continued
> How did the rabbit taste after it fried?
>
> Steve KW3A
>
> On 2/28/2011 9:00 PM, John Miller wrote:
>> My favorite recently was when I didn't realize my pet rabbit ate the
>> power
>> cord for the cable box in the living room. I found it alright. I had to
>> tape
>> that up, comcast will love to get that one back. It was more than I
>> should
>> have just taped but oh well. I got a nice jolt from that one.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "colin McDonald"<[log in to unmask]>
>> To:<[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 8:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: RFI Saga continued
>>
>>
>>> and while I know we all learn, and are taught about treating electricity
>>> with caution, and respect, and that how it takes x amount of tiny
>>> current
>>> at
>>> x amount of voltage to potentially stop the heart etc etc, you can still
>>> grab onto an open 110/120VAC line and it'll only give you a bit of a
>>> jolt...I've gotten that so many times I can't count from bad wall plugs
>>> and
>>> bad chord ends etc...try plugging the vehicle in at minus 25 when the
>>> female
>>> end of the extention chord has been lying in the snow and you have to
>>> get
>>> rid of the snow plugging up the plug to insert the male part from the
>>> vehicle...you get jolted a few times doing that let me tell you...though
>>> after a few minutes, your fingers are numb enough from the cold that you
>>> don't really feel it anyway hi hi.
>>> at any rate, when your working on devices that have a step down
>>> transformer
>>> in them, best practice is to unplug, or turn the power off if you don't
>>> need
>>> the device to be operational while your working on it...however, if it
>>> is
>>> unavoidable, like in this situation, there's not much harm in getting a
>>> little buzz if you touch the wrong spot.
>>> Also, if you unplug the thing and explore around inside before working
>>> on
>>> it
>>> while it's live, you can orient yourself to where the higher AC voltage
>>> might be located. These days, most components have some sort of
>>> insulation
>>> around the high voltage contact points...such as at switches and where
>>> the
>>> AC connects to fuses and the main transformer.
>>> Usually these things are designed with all the high voltage, as in
>>> 120VAC,
>>> connections set up on one side of the PCB...sometimes I just put
>>> electrical
>>> tape or duct tape over these connections if they are open so I don't
>>> touch
>>> them or short them or something like that.
>>> It's easy to tell these connections because the wire is generally pretty
>>> thick compared to other wiring in the device, and you can trace the wire
>>> and
>>> tape off solder points or whatever.
>>> there is always a way, if there is the will.
>>> I've been working on a solid state guitar amp lately. In order to
>>> trouble
>>> shoot the problem, it has to be turned on and operational in order for
>>> me
>>> to
>>> figure it out. I traced all the hot spots and covered them with
>>> tape...and,
>>> I know where the hot spots are located on the board so I stay away from
>>> that
>>> area as much as possible. I also taped the edges of the board and the
>>> chassis edges so nothing will short to ground by accident while the
>>> board
>>> is
>>> floating around unanchored.
>>> I did this of course after I shorted some hot point to the chassis,
>>> which
>>> is
>>> ground in this thing..and had a little flash and puff of
>>> smoke...thankfully
>>> nothing blew and all is well, other than the original issue.
>>> So, respect power, and maintain considerate caution, but don't fear what
>>> isn't there.
>>> I mean, don't stick your tongue on a live 120Vac source or anything, but
>>> getting a tingle in your fingers from accidentally touching it isn't
>>> going
>>> to hurt you or your equipment in any severe manner.
>>> Allot of guys will use a rubber matt on the desk and floor while working
>>> on
>>> anything that is live...but again, not all that is necesary unless your
>>> dealing with allot of humidity in the air or you have a real high ground
>>> potential or high electrical resistance in your body.
>>> everyone will react differently to electricity as well depending upon
>>> their
>>> biological make up.
>>> 73
>>> Colin, V A6BKX
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Butch Bussen"<[log in to unmask]>
>>> To:<[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 5:03 PM
>>> Subject: Re: RFI Saga continued
>>>
>>>
>>>> You're making a mountain out of a mole hill. It won't bite you!!!
>>>> Turning the switch on does nothing but connect the primary to a c.
>>>> Just
>>>> unplug and it will bleed off in half a minute or so. I've worked on
>>>> them plugged in for years.
>>>> 73
>>>> Butch
>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 28 Feb 2011, tom behler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The other thing I was thinking of doing was unplugging the power
>>>>> supply,
>>>>> letting it set for a while, and then turning the switch on, in the
>>>>> hopes
>>>>> that this would help discharge the capacitors too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Butch Bussen"<[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To:<[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 11:57 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: RFI Saga continued
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The thing will discharge itself if you let it set a short while.
>>>>> Second,
>>>>> there is only 24 volts or so on a cap and I've worked on them hot and
>>>>> as
>>>>> long as you stay out of the primary 110 side, no worries. It won't
>>>>> zap
>>>>> you.
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Butch
>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
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