Well, be sure and let us know what you find out.

Phil.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vicki" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: Vicki's hand


> Well, it's kind of weird. My left hand doesn't always want to close.  It's 
> painful to do so, most of the time. Opening it is a challenge as well. 
> When I have to use my other hand to open my ring finger, for example,  it 
> makes this pop noise and sneds a shock wave of pain to accompany it. My 
> wrist seems to be somewhat unhappy as well. That's in short why the hand 
> doc visit coming up.
>
> Vicki
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:54 pm
> Subject: Vicki's hand
>
>>
>>
>> Vic,
>>
>> What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so other's can 
>> hear, too.
>>
>> Phil.
>>
>> How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>> www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   From: Vicki
>>   To: [log in to unmask]
>>   Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>>   Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>
>>
>>   Phil and everybody,
>>
>>   Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had hoped it 
>> would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you know what you know. 
>> I can't imagine having that much pain though and I sure will be praying. 
>> I get some living with pain myself as I am in therapy for a torn achiles 
>> Tendon.  The therapy has helped a great deal and I have exercises to do 
>> at home which I am doing.  In addition, I'm headed to a hand surgeon on 
>> the 13th and praying no surgery to be necessary, and everything to be 
>> returned to manageable and even more than what I'm believing for.  Will 
>> be praying that for you too.
>>
>>   Vicki
>>
>>
>>   .
>>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>>     From: Phil Scovell
>>     To: [log in to unmask]
>>     Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>>     Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>
>>
>>     First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>>
>>     My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that encouraging 
>> today.  Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus the physical tests 
>> they did, revealed my lower back is telescoping, that is, the vertebras 
>> are all pressing downward.  As they  do, they are pressuring the disks 
>> which in turn are spreading out, slipping to the sides, and coming in 
>> contact with nerves which creates the pain in all the various locations. 
>> The pain changes from the lower back, into my hips, back of my legs, and 
>> all the way down to my ankles.  Each back episode, creates pain in 
>> multiple places but not the same places each and every time.  Also, the 
>> pain level my be from mild to severe.  They do not recommend surgery 
>> because it would take a number of fusions of the vertebras to repair the 
>> damage that is ongoing.  They are recommending physical therapy in order 
>> to learn ways of exercising to the point the vertebras pull back from 
>> each other further and thus creating less pressure on the disks.  In 
>> short, learn to live with it.  I was hoping it would be a single set of 
>> vertebra that could be fused but that isn't the case.  The pain episodes 
>> will continue but hopefully, with the PT, not as often and the exercises 
>> can be continued at home and should help keep things in better shape; 
>> maybe.  At some point, if the PT is helping, I can go back and get shots 
>> in different places of my lower back to help with pain management, if it 
>> gets unbearable, that is, but only time will tell.  Learning to live with 
>> pain is going to be the name of the game.  At least now I know. 
>> Certainly not as encouraging as I would have hoped but knowing is better 
>> than not knowing.
>>
>>     Phil.
>>
>>     Satan Has A God Complex
>>     www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>
>> Vic,
>>
>> What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so other's can 
>> hear, too.
>>
>> Phil.
>>
>> How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>> www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Vicki
>> To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>
>>
>> Phil and everybody,
>>
>> Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had hoped it 
>> would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you know what you know. 
>> I can't imagine having that much pain though and I sure will be praying. 
>> I get some living with pain myself as I am in therapy for a torn achiles 
>> Tendon.  The therapy has helped a great deal and I have exercises to do 
>> at home which I am doing.  In addition, I'm headed to a hand surgeon on 
>> the 13th and praying no surgery to be necessary, and everything to be 
>> returned to manageable and even more than what I'm believing for.  Will 
>> be praying that for you too.
>>
>> Vicki
>>
>>
>> .
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Phil Scovell
>> To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>> Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>
>>
>> First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>>
>> My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that encouraging today. 
>> Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus the physical tests they did, 
>> revealed my lower back is telescoping, that is, the vertebras are all 
>> pressing downward.  As they  do, they are pressuring the disks which in 
>> turn are spreading out, slipping to the sides, and coming in contact with 
>> nerves which creates the pain in all the various locations.  The pain 
>> changes from the lower back, into my hips, back of my legs, and all the 
>> way down to my ankles.  Each back episode, creates pain in multiple 
>> places but not the same places each and every time.  Also, the pain level 
>> my be from mild to severe.  They do not recommend surgery because it 
>> would take a number of fusions of the vertebras to repair the damage that 
>> is ongoing.  They are recommending physical therapy in order to learn 
>> ways of exercising to the point the vertebras pull back from each other 
>> further and thus creating less pressure on the disks.  In short, learn to 
>> live with it.  I was hoping it would be a single set of vertebra that 
>> could be fused but that isn't the case.  The pain episodes will continue 
>> but hopefully, with the PT, not as often and the exercises can be 
>> continued at home and should help keep things in better shape; maybe.  At 
>> some point, if the PT is helping, I can go back and get shots in 
>> different places of my lower back to help with pain management, if it 
>> gets unbearable, that is, but only time will tell.  Learning to live with 
>> pain is going to be the name of the game.  At least now I know. 
>> Certainly not as encouraging as I would have hoped but knowing is better 
>> than not knowing.
>>
>> Phil.
>>
>> Satan Has A God Complex
>> www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
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