But for those on the list who keep kosher....?  ;-{)}

Peter and Ken, thanks for the undoubtedly well researched info on the
vaccine!  Coming from you two, I'm convinced!  I didn't get the vaccine this
year  - I went to get it, put my latex allergy on the form, and they said to
get it at my doctor's office, as the stopper in the vaccine bottle might
contain latex.  I then forgot.  I'll put it on my calendar for late summer
or early fall.  I heard once that that's a target date of having the best
guess on the new iteration of the vaccine.  Any info on that Ken, from
insiders at the CDC?

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 8:49 PM, ken barber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> eggs and dead flu virus i think is the simplest way to explain it but since
> we are talking swine flu think ham and eggs. :-)
>
> --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > From: Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Time to wake up the list, if possible
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 10:44 PM
>  > how / what do they make flu shots
> > from? not sure i want anything other than human dna.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tamar
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Tamar Mag Raine, Commissioner,
> >
> > Oakland Mayor's Commission on People with Disabilities
> >
> > [log in to unmask]
> > http://www.zazzle.com/TamarMag*
> > www.cafepress.com/tamarmag
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 7:32:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: Time to wake up the list, if possible
> >
> > yes, it is next years mutation that they are worried about.
> > with human, bird, and swine DNA it could mutate a lot of
> > different ways.
> >
> > --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Peter Hunsberger <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: Peter Hunsberger <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Subject: Re: Time to wake up the list, if possible
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 1:58 AM
> > > That's a very bad assumption.
> > > Just so happens, if you got your flu shot
> > > this year you are mostly protected from the current
> > version
> > > of the swine flu
> > > (as far as we know at the moment).  The reason
> > being,
> > > that the people doing
> > > the predicting guessed correctly on one of what was
> > likely
> > > to be the most
> > > likely new variants to show up this year,  Not
> > getting
> > > the flu shot each
> > > year greatly increases your odds of catching the flu.
> > > I'll be attending a lecture on Monday by one of the
> > people
> > > who heads up the
> > > effort to make the predictions, part of the talk is
> > about
> > > how they pick
> > > which flu variants are most likely to show up.  I
> > can
> > > already tell you its
> > > an extremely set of sophisticated set of predictions
> > that
> > > takes into account
> > > mutation rates (among other things).  Please
> > don't put
> > > your health and the
> > > health of others around you at risk, get your flu
> > shots
> > > every year!
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yeah, your conclusion is right, Virginia, One
> > reason I
> > > don't get flu shots
> > > > is they make them based on last year's flu. They
> > can't
> > > really predict it.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Peter Hunsberger
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