Intolerant of those who sit there claiming they're working the world on ham 
radio when it's actually on the computer with no work at all involved,and 
will never upgrade or never have to worry about band conditions, which is 
part of ham radio, yes, we should be intolerant of laziness and ignorance. I 
wouldn't have quite as big a problem if they were like irlp and you had to 
use a radio of some sort to get in the system. I'd still not like it but 
wouldn't be as against it. a little security wouldn't hurt either, it's so 
easy to get in now it's not even funny if someone wants to try it.  If you 
want to talk all over the world on the computer, get on skype or any of the 
numerous online license free chat programs and don't call yourself a ham. 
I'm sick and tired of the people who say they'll never upgrade or put up a 
station because of lowlifelink, that's why I woke up, saw how bad a thing it 
really is, pulled all my system down for that, uninstalled it and told them 
to take my call sign out of the system permanently and ban it so no one can 
try to register as me which is very easy to do.  and also I've been fighting 
to have it discounted as a supposed ham radio mode ever since. I should try 
the new ham radio enforcement at the fcc, the last one was all for it but 
afraid they'd lose people, of course that's the kind we want to lose I 
pointed out but he announced his retirement a couple days later and never 
did anything about it.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:23 AM
Subject: Re: back on the list again


> Hi bill, this is Howard.  nice to hear you again.
> Their are some intolerant people here who don't respect other people's
> choice of using echolink.
> Ignore bigots of thought where ever you find them.
> Echo link works fine.  for communication with radio amateurs.
> It's available from
> http://www.echolink.org
> When you set it up, you have to set all of the station views to explorer
> view.
> This is done by unchecking index view for everything under tools
> preferences.
> The audio doesn't compare with skype.  Their used to be and maybe still is 
> a
> noon handyhams net that meets on one of the repeaters from Minneapolis, as
> well as on echolink.
> It's kind of cool to talk to mobiles driving around Jerusalem.  Now try 
> that
> on HF!
> Have fun and a number of people on here have echolink nodes.