Oh, the idea of putting up antennas being too difficult being a problem is
rather interesting since withy newer antennas its less of a problem than its
been in the past and I've never heard that used as an excuse for much of
anything.

Tom


Tom Brennan  KD5VIJ, CCC-A/SLP
web page http://titan.sfasu.edu/~g_brennantg/sonicpage.html

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011, Steve Dresser wrote:

> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 17:04:45 -0400
> From: Steve Dresser <[log in to unmask]>
> Reply-To: For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Dumbing down, was Re: Selling Gear Online
>
> Buddy,
>
> Despite the no-code license, there seems to be a die-hard bunch of devoted
> CW operators.  If we want to look at why ham radio is dying (and I think it
> is to some extent), it's because there are so many other ways to
> communicate--cell phones and the Internet, for example.  All that said,
> though, people seem to find ways to enjoy the hobby if they're truly
> interested.
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Buddy Brannan" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 16:26
> Subject: Dumbing down, was Re: Selling Gear Online
>
>
> > Oh boy, here we go. So, passing a code test pases on interest in hf? =
> > That's a bit convoluted. I agree that the tests have gotten easier. I =
> > was also one of the first to get up in arms when we got our first =
> > codeless license. I was, however, also one of the first to admit that I =
> > was wrong about the codeless tech brnging an end to my beloved hobby. =
> > The hobby's been dying now since the introduction of the Novice license =
> > in 1951, if not before. And it's still alive and well. You don't think =
> > the difficulty in erecting hf antennas, owing to cc&r's and HOA's, might =
> > not have something to do with the seemling lack of interest in HF
> > gear?=20=
> >
> >
> > I, for one, have observed that when people talk about "dumbing down", =
> > what that really means is "Things aren't the same as they were back =
> > in*my(*day." Believe me, I can be as curmudgeonly as the next guy. I =
> > didn't dub myself "the world's youngest old fart" years ago for nothing, =
> > you know. But change is inevitable. Roll with it.=20
> >
> > And, more to the point, has anyone else noticed that the people who =
> > often holler the loudest about how the tests are dumbed down and we =
> > should still have a code requirement, aren't cw ops? Interesting.=20
> > --
> > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 30, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Tom Brennan wrote:
> >
> >> Steve, unfortunately we're seeing the result of the no code and =
> > dumbing down of
> >> the tests.  Now we've got a bunch of techs that are only interested in =
> > 2m
> >> repeaters.  I'd think that online selling of gear would be fairly easy =
> > either
> >> through Ebay or even through this list or sales lists run by sites =
> > such as QRZ
> >> etc.
> >>=20
> >> Tom
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >> Tom Brennan  KD5VIJ, CCC-A/SLP
> >> web page http://titan.sfasu.edu/~g_brennantg/sonicpage.html
> >>=20
> >> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011, Steve Matzura wrote:
> >>=20
> >>> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 14:56:01 -0400
> >>> From: Steve Matzura <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> Reply-To: For blind ham radio operators =
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> To: [log in to unmask]
> >>> Subject: Selling Gear Online
> >>>=20
> >>> Where's the best place to go to put some gear for sale online? =
> > Someone
> >>> I know has a relative who's giving up the hobby because they'll be
> >>> moving into an assisted living facility and will have no space or
> >>> other wherewithal to work the hobby other than via either a handheld
> >>> or a mobile rig with a magmount out the window. I'm told he have =
> > quite
> >>> a modern HF station, but have no specifics as to what gear is =
> > actually
> >>> involved. Funny thing, the ham wanted to donate it to a local club or
> >>> school, but the few takers he could find were only interested in
> >>> VHF/UHF gear. Any recommendations greatly appreciated and will be
> >>> passed along.
> >>>=20
> >
>