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Ed Malmgren <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:43:50 -0600
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Mike, if your talking about the
R F App, P 2000 C W they quit building them a few years ago sadly, They were 
not Auto tuners, you read the info in C W. Bad move I think.  73
Ed  K7UC
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Keithley" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: auto antenna tuner


> It that S W R/power meter still available?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ed Malmgren <[log in to unmask]>
> To: unknown [log in to unmask]
> Date: Sunday, Sep 19, 2010 2:06:01
> Subject: Re: auto antenna tuner
>
>>
>>
>> Gerry, I don't use the meters on the tuner.  The R F Applications P 2000 
>> C W
>> S W R/power meter does a great job.  I think your set up would work the 
>> same
>> way.  73
>> Ed  K7UC
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gerry Leary" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 8:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: auto antenna tuner
>>
>>
>> > What do you use to read the tuner?
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Ed Malmgren" <[log in to unmask]>
>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 7:43 AM
>> > Subject: Re: auto antenna tuner
>> >
>> >
>> >> Gerry, I do about the same as you in the tuning department.  I use a
>> >> Palstar
>> >> 2000 but use a R F A P 2000 for the S W R/power meter.  It's a bit 
>> >> slower
>> >> than the auto jobs I think but enjoyable for me. 73
>> >> Ed  K7UC
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Gerry Leary" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 5:59 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: auto antenna tuner
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> If you have a LDG TW1 talking watt meter, you can do like I do, and 
>> >>> that
>> >>> is
>> >>> I use an old heath kit Tuner and do it manually.  It is easy and fun.
>> >>> It
>> >>> reminds me of the old Viking 2 days.
>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:33 AM
>> >>> Subject: Re: auto antenna tuner
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> John,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Do they have an interface for the TS2000?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Steve
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >>>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>>> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:40
>> >>>> Subject: Re: auto antenna tuner
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> The LDG tuners you can get an interface for and have for a long 
>> >>>>> time,
>> >>>>> so
>> >>>>> you
>> >>>>> can hook it to the radio and use the tune button and it will drop 
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> power
>> >>>>> and all.
>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >>>>> From: "Steve Forst" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>>>> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:10 AM
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: auto antenna tuner
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Steve,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Well I did take a deep breath before ordering.   While I have 
>> >>>>>> never
>> >>>>>> had
>> >>>>>> a lot of MFJ stuff, the stuff I've had over the years has all 
>> >>>>>> worked
>> >>>>>> fine.   I know others haven't been so lucky, but I've had this one
>> >>>>>> over
>> >>>>>> 2 years with  no problems.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I can't compare to the LDG since I've never owned one.   At the 
>> >>>>>> time
>> >>>>>> of
>> >>>>>> purchase I did compare the specs for both.   The LDG had 6 meter
>> >>>>>> coverage, but I work very little 6M and no amp, so no big deal. 
>> >>>>>> The
>> >>>>>> MFJ offered higher power (1.5K vs. 1K)  as well as the ability to
>> >>>>>> automatically lower rf drive and change to cw for tuning, while 
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> LDG
>> >>>>>> required you to do all that manually.   The MFJ also had the amp
>> >>>>>> relay
>> >>>>>> connections.   Of course LDG may have  something out today with 
>> >>>>>> more
>> >>>>>> features.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Truth is, I've switched the MFJ and the Palstar manual tuner in 
>> >>>>>> and
>> >>>>>> out
>> >>>>>> of the system a number of times over the past 2 years.   Each has
>> >>>>>> it's
>> >>>>>> benefits.   I would have loved a Palstar auto tuner, but too rich 
>> >>>>>> for
>> >>>>>> me.    The Palstar auto had a motor driven roller inductor and 
>> >>>>>> either
>> >>>>>> 1
>> >>>>>> or 2 moter driven caps.    It just went out of production, but a 
>> >>>>>> new
>> >>>>>> one
>> >>>>>> is coming soon, although I've not seen any specs on it.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 9/17/2010 10:25 AM, Steve Dresser wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Steve,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> How do you think your MFJ auto-tuner stacks up against LDG's
>> >>>>>>> AT-1000?
>> >>>>>>> I'm
>> >>>>>>> sure the MFJ is cheaper, but based on things I've heard about 
>> >>>>>>> other
>> >>>>>>> MFJ
>> >>>>>>> tuners, I wonder how reliable the internal components are.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Steve
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>>> From: "Steve Forst"<[log in to unmask]>
>> >>>>>>> To:<[log in to unmask]>
>> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:05
>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: auto antenna tuner
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Butch,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I have a MFJ-998 in the shack.  I'd give it a 4 out of 5 rating.
>> >>>>>>>> It
>> >>>>>>>> will handle 1500 watts, which is more then  my AL-80B or THP 
>> >>>>>>>> solid
>> >>>>>>>> state
>> >>>>>>>> amp will put out.  The problem I think you will find with  auto
>> >>>>>>>> tuners
>> >>>>>>>> including the ones built into the radio is limited matching 
>> >>>>>>>> range
>> >>>>>>>> due
>> >>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>> the fixed values of L and C. You won't be able to load your
>> >>>>>>>> grandmother's walker on 40 meters.
>> >>>>>>>> It has a ton of memories and up and down L and C buttons so you 
>> >>>>>>>> can
>> >>>>>>>> find
>> >>>>>>>> a match manually if the auto function can't.   An optional 20$
>> >>>>>>>> cable
>> >>>>>>>> will interface to many rigs, and when connected this way hitting
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> auto tune button on the rig bypasses the internal tuner, puts 
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> rig
>> >>>>>>>> into cw mode at low power for the tune  process, then returns to
>> >>>>>>>> original mode and   power when tuning is complete.  If the amp
>> >>>>>>>> relay
>> >>>>>>>> jacks on the tuner are connected between the amp and radio,  the
>> >>>>>>>> amp
>> >>>>>>>> will be bypassed during tune up.   This relay is also supposed 
>> >>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>> prevent the amp from keying in the event of a high swr, but I 
>> >>>>>>>> can't
>> >>>>>>>> say
>> >>>>>>>> that I've really  tested this function fully.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> There are some menus for which sighted help would be needed, but
>> >>>>>>>> they
>> >>>>>>>> are the set it and forget it type of stuff.   Things like swr 
>> >>>>>>>> point
>> >>>>>>>> at
>> >>>>>>>> which it should  start looking for a better match, and swr point
>> >>>>>>>> for
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> amp relay to bypass the amp.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
> 

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