Sure is funny why so many people come to the U S A from Canada for health 
care then.  Go figure.
Ed  K7UC
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From: "colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: This has nothing to do with ham radio


> absolutely.
> Cuba has one of the best health care systems on earth for their general
> population.
> there might be allot of other things wrong with cuba, but their health 
> care
> is second to none.
> I would venture to guess that the US is the only industrialized, first 
> world
> country that doesn't have a national health care system by which all
> residents are treated to adequit and timely medical care without having to
> pay for it directly.
> Obviously taxes support a national health care system, but at least in 
> other
> countries, you don't have to pay your taxes, and pay for medical care on 
> top
> of that.
> The american way seems to be pay, pay, and pay some more, and still not
> receive adequit service or care.
> I would say that a country more interested in trillion dollar wars may not
> see a good healthcare system for their population as a priority.
> Canada didn't always have a healthcare system either, but the one we have
> now, though always problematic as any large national organization is, is
> adequit and timely as far as care goes on the front line.
> No one must pay out of pocket, or go into debt to stay healthy or to 
> receive
> care for an illness.  Or, stay sick because they can't pay.
> We pay our federal and provincial taxes, and that is enough to provide 
> basic
> human needs for us.
> what is the point in having a government, if that government won't even
> assist the general population with basic human needs? sooers, running and
> clean water, land, safety and security, healthcare, education and
> employment.
> those are absolute basics, and implementation of programs to meet those
> needs doesn't fall under the definition of socialism.
> Any government who is put in charge of a society or population can be said
> to be socialist to one extent or another.
> Socialism seems to be a catch all phrase for anything americans don't like
> about federal programs.  Throw up that red flag named socialism and 
> everyone
> starts thinking about the soviet union, cuba, china, and the eastern 
> block.
> social programs does not equal communism, two totally separate things.
> Capitalism and the "american way" can thrive and still do very well under 
> a
> higher level of "socialist" style programs and services.
> You pay less as a citizen, and you have more opportunities for education 
> and
> healthcare and employment.  where is the negative here?
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 4:06 PM
> Subject: Re: This has nothing to do with ham radio
>
>
>> They said the same thing about President Trumann.  Let's wait thirty 
>> years
>> and then judge.
>> The Health Care Reform act is a bad law, but it's a start to put us on a
>> par
>> with other industrialized nations.  The problem is it doesn't reform the
>> system.  Money is made by curing catastrophic illnesses, not by 
>> preventing
>> them.  Where do you think the brightest minds in medicine go?  Right to
>> specialization rather than to primary care.
>> America has the best health care in the world, that is if you have a
>> million
>> dollar illness like cancer.  Your child has a higher statistical chance 
>> of
>> living to the age of five in Cuba than he or she does by being born in
>> America.
>> We fiddle while Rhome burns.
>