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Your fwd program is generating this mime html as appended below.
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Hi.


Is the attached html really of any use to those who read with speech?

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Please answer in plain text, not mime attached html.

Thanks much again as always.
Jim

Please forgive if you really want to attach html 
and are using its features.

Do you know that you are posting in mime attached duplicate html?
Can you please explain why the mime attached html?
If so, may I please ask  which mail program is creating these html attachments, 
under which OS, and why?
I am absolutely certain that it is not my mail program, or anything on my end,
though your mail program may hide them from you.
This is why others may not have pointed out the mime attached html problem.

Your mime attached html post, which I have appended,
is exactly what I received.

Are you using html to display anything other than plain text?
Unless you really are using the html features,
the defaults should be set to both post and answer in plain text,
or uuencode, if plain text is not an option.
your answer mode should also be set to
answer in plain text, or answer in uuencode,
not to answer in kind.

I am most concerned about viruses in unintended attachments.

If you must quote me, please put your comments first.
I have already listened to mine.

I read email with speech,
So it is not possible to scroll past the html and quotes 
without listening to them again,
and the mime code after the header is not speech friendly.
to quickly get to the new information.
The mime attached html is far from speech friendly!

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From: "Code Factory News (no reply)" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: September 1, 2010 11:49:22 AM EDT
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Subject: Mobile Speak and Windows Phone 7
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Caroline Ragot - Marketing Director
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Windows Phone 7

Mobile Speak for Windows Mobile, 5 years of successes and challenges
Code Factory products will not be compatible with the initial versions =
of Windows Phone 7
Terrassa (Barcelona), Spain, September, 1st, 2010
Code Factory has always shown a great commitment to keep up-to-date with =
the latest mobile phone technology. Back in 2005, Code Factory launched =
Mobile Speak Pocket. =93Many of our users were asking us to make Windows =
Mobile Pocket PCs accessible, because at the time they were the only =
professional-oriented mobile devices,=94 explained Eduard S=E1nchez, =
Code Factory=92s CEO. =93One of our top priorities has always been to =
allow our profesionnal blind and visually impaired users to be as =
efficient and productive as their sighted peers. Therefore, based on the =
experience of Mobile Speak for Symbian phones released two years =
earlier, we put together all our passion, knowledge and effort and =
developed Mobile Speak for Windows Mobile=94.

In five years, Code Factory took up many challenges with the Windows =
Mobile platform, including support for the first touchscreen devices; =
support for hundreds of devices from more than fifteen different =
manufacturers such as HTC, HP, Motorola, and Samsung; support for =
customized firmware from carriers from all over the world; and support =
for five new operating system (OS) versions, from Windows Mobile 2003 SE =
to Windows Mobile 6.5.

Microsoft has announced the upcoming release of Windows Phone 7. Windows =
Phone 7 is not an upgraded version of Windows Mobile 6.5. It is a =
brand-new OS, which means that applications built for Windows Mobile 6.x =
or earlier will not run on Windows Phone 7.

As a software developer, Code Factory is facing the same issues as =
mainstream companies such as Mozilla, Adobe or Skype. =93Windows Phone 7 =
doesn=92t support native code development, which means that it is =
technically impossible to develop a screen reader application without =
the direct help of Microsoft, the OS maker=94, explained Eduard S=E1nchez.=
 =93Therefore Mobile Speak, Mobile Geo, and Mobile Magnifier will not =
run on the initial version of Windows Phone 7=94.

However, Mobile Speak, Mobile Magnifier and Mobile Geo will of course =
keep running on supported Windows Mobile devices. Also, the Windows =
Mobile 6.5 devices won=92t disappear from the market all at once, and =
Code Factory=92s customers should still be able to acquire them for a =
reasonable period of time after the release of Windows Phone 7.

=93We have been talking with Microsoft for the last few months to try to =
remedy the situation and come up with an accessible solution for Windows =
Phone 7 as soon as possible. In fact, we waited until now to make this =
announcement because we were hoping that together with Microsoft we =
could find a solution before the release of the first Windows Phone 7 =
devices, but unfortunately this will not be the case=94 added Eduard =
S=E1nchez. =93Microsoft has always been willing to put accessibility on =
its road map, however it hasn=92t been possible for the first release of =
Windows Phone 7. We at Code Factory are at their entire disposal to =
provide our assistance and expertise=94.

Greg Sullivan, Senior Product Manager at Microsoft Mobile Communications =
Business Group said, "We understand that the initial Windows Phone 7 =
release doesn=92t live up to some expectations in specific scenarios but =
as we work on future versions of the technology we hope to learn from =
the Accessibility Community about what scenarios and features will allow =
Windows Phone to appeal to more users."

Eduard S=E1nchez concluded, =93Developing Mobile Speak for Windows =
Mobile has taught us a lot and we are proud of our development team for =
those five years of hard work. We are very excited with the future of =
mobile phones and all the new platforms which are coming out. We hope =
that soon we will be able to add Windows Phone 7 to the list of our =
successful challenges=94.

For more information about Microsoft Accessibility, visit =
http://www.microsoft.com/enable/

For more information about Code Factory=92s accessible solutions, visit =
http://www.codefactory.es or submit a ticket through Code Factory=92s =
Help Desk at http://www.codefactory.cat/helpdesk/


About Code Factory =20
Founded in 1998 and headquartered in Terrassa (Barcelona), Spain, Code =
Factory is the global leader committed to the development of products =
designed to eliminate barriers to the accessibility of mobile technology =
for the blind and visually impaired. Today, Code Factory is the leading =
provider of screen readers, screen magnifiers, and Braille interfaces =
for the widest range of mainstream mobile devices. Among Code Factory's =
customers are well known organizations for the blind such as ONCE, and =
carriers such as AT&T, Bouygues Telecom, SFR, TIM and Vodafone.


For more information, feel free to contact Code Factory S.L.:


Code Factory, S.L., Rambla d'Egara 148 2-2, 08221 Terrassa (Barcelona)
HelpDesk, www.codefactory.es
Code Factory, S.L. - 2010



To unsubscribe, visit http://www.codefactory.es/en/services.asp?id=3D390. =
You also can send an email to [log in to unmask] for any request =
related to the Code Factory's news.





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<div id=3D"contactpress"><p><strong>Caroline Ragot - </strong>Marketing =
Director<br><a =
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<h2>Mobile Speak for Windows Mobile, 5 years of successes and =
challenges</h2>
<h3>Code Factory products will not be compatible with the initial =
versions of Windows Phone 7 </h3></div>
<h4>Terrassa (Barcelona), Spain, September, 1st, 2010</h4><p>Code =
Factory has always shown a great commitment to keep up-to-date with the =
latest mobile phone technology. Back in 2005, Code Factory launched =
Mobile Speak Pocket. =93Many of our users were asking us to make Windows =
Mobile Pocket PCs accessible, because at the time they were the only =
professional-oriented mobile devices,=94 explained Eduard S=E1nchez, =
Code Factory=92s CEO. =93One of our top priorities has always been to =
allow our profesionnal blind and visually impaired users to be as =
efficient and productive as their sighted peers. Therefore, based on the =
experience of Mobile Speak for Symbian phones released two years =
earlier, we put together all our passion, knowledge and effort and =
developed Mobile Speak for Windows Mobile=94. </p><p>In five years, Code =
Factory took up many challenges with the Windows Mobile platform, =
including support for the first touchscreen devices; support for =
hundreds of devices from more than fifteen different manufacturers such =
as HTC, HP, Motorola, and Samsung; support for customized firmware from =
carriers from all over the world; and support for five new operating =
system (OS) versions, from Windows Mobile 2003 SE to Windows Mobile =
6.5.</p><p>Microsoft has announced the upcoming release of Windows Phone =
7. Windows Phone 7 is not an upgraded version of Windows Mobile 6.5. It =
is a brand-new OS, which means that applications built for Windows =
Mobile 6.x or earlier will not run on Windows Phone 7.</p><p>As a =
software developer, Code Factory is facing the same issues as mainstream =
companies such as Mozilla, Adobe or Skype. =93Windows Phone 7 doesn=92t =
support native code development, which means that it is technically =
impossible to develop a screen reader application without the direct =
help of Microsoft, the OS maker=94, explained Eduard S=E1nchez. =
=93Therefore Mobile Speak, Mobile Geo, and Mobile Magnifier will not run =
on the initial version of Windows Phone 7=94.</p><p>However, Mobile =
Speak, Mobile Magnifier and Mobile Geo will of course keep running on =
supported Windows Mobile devices. Also, the Windows Mobile 6.5 devices =
won=92t disappear from the market all at once, and Code Factory=92s =
customers should still be able to acquire them for a reasonable period =
of time after the release of Windows Phone 7.</p><p>=93We have been =
talking with Microsoft for the last few months to try to remedy the =
situation and come up with an accessible solution for Windows Phone 7 as =
soon as possible. In fact, we waited until now to make this announcement =
because we were hoping that together with Microsoft we could find a =
solution before the release of the first Windows Phone 7 devices, but =
unfortunately this will not be the case=94 added Eduard S=E1nchez. =
=93Microsoft has always been willing to put accessibility on its road =
map, however it hasn=92t been possible for the first release of Windows =
Phone 7. We at Code Factory are at their entire disposal to provide our =
assistance and expertise=94.</p><p>Greg Sullivan, Senior Product Manager =
at Microsoft Mobile Communications Business Group said, "We understand =
that the initial Windows Phone 7 release doesn=92t live up to some =
expectations in specific scenarios but as we work on future versions of =
the technology we hope to learn from the Accessibility Community about =
what scenarios and features will allow Windows Phone to appeal to more =
users." </p><p>Eduard S=E1nchez concluded, =93Developing Mobile Speak =
for Windows Mobile has taught us a lot and we are proud of our =
development team for those five years of hard work. We are very excited =
with the future of mobile phones and all the new platforms which are =
coming out. We hope that soon we will be able to add Windows Phone 7 to =
the list of our successful challenges=94.</p><p>For more information =
about Microsoft Accessibility, visit <a =
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information about Code Factory=92s accessible solutions, visit <a =
href=3D"http://www.codefactory.es/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.codefactory.es</a> or submit a ticket =
through Code Factory=92s Help Desk at <a =
href=3D"http://www.codefactory.cat/helpdesk/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.codefactory.cat/helpdesk/</a> </p><br>
<h4>About Code Factory &nbsp;</h4><p>Founded in 1998 and headquartered =
in Terrassa (Barcelona), Spain, Code Factory is the global leader =
committed to the development of products designed to eliminate barriers =
to the accessibility of mobile technology for the blind and visually =
impaired. Today, Code Factory is the leading provider of screen readers, =
screen magnifiers, and Braille interfaces for the widest range of =
mainstream mobile devices. Among Code Factory's customers are well known =
organizations for the blind such as ONCE, and carriers such as AT&amp;T, =
Bouygues Telecom, SFR, TIM and Vodafone. </p><br></div><!-- /content =
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