Thanks for those tips. Most of them I do use. I've found though that using
JAWS 11 you can't click on the Quick Add button for instance and get any
results. Where using JAWS 9, not only can you click on it, but then you can
find and work with the resultant edit box and save.
I too have been in touch with the Australian Company, and they told me they
do not at this time support Google Docs Calendar, only the GMail calendar
which are apparently different in some fashion. They said that Google had
not been too helpful in resolving the problem either.
I've seen this same sort of problem in Documents. You can read just fine,
but if you try to download, edit or save, the buttons may not respond.
I'm looking forward to Google resolving this properly so we don't have to
all waste time on imperfect work arounds.
Thanks,
Bill
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Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 7:34 AM
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Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] Google Docs
I mostly use Google Calendar with Orca in Linux and Firefox, but in case it
helps with JAWS 11, here's what I find to be the most effective.
First, I click on the link at the top that says something like "Click here
for ARIA calendar". Next, I click on the Agenda button. Now I can use the
tab key or the down arrow key to go through my calendar in a list. The
recent updates to Google Calendar only show a few days, so I need to click
on the buttons for earlier or later days. I also will use the mouse pointer
to click on a day in the calendar.
Once I get to an event I want to do something with, I'll use the right mouse
button to expand it and then the right mouse button to click on Edit event
or sometimes delete. Once I'm editing an event, I find everything is pretty
straight forward.
Another thing which changed recently is that when I save an event, I now
have to go to the bottom of the page to click on the send button. It used to
make that the default button after clicking on the save button, but not any
more.
I'll also use the Lightning plug in for Firefox to do some manipulation of
my Google Calendar, but I frequently run into problems with this, so I will
use Lightning to review my calendar and occasionally work with my personal
calendar, but for my company's calendar, I pretty much use the web interface
to manipulate events.
There's also an Australian company who came out with an accessible web
interface to Google Calendar, which seems to work pretty well. I don't use
it though, since it only works with your primary Google Calendar, so I
couldn't get it to work with my company's Google Calendar, but they say they
may support secondary Google Calendars in the future. The link is at
http://www.povidi.com/mag/.
There's also the mobile interface to Google Calendar at
http://www.google.com/calendar/m, but there's a lot you can't do with this
interface.
On 27/07/11 16:00, Sun Sounds of Arizona wrote:
> My organization works extensively with Google Docs too, and it drives
> me nuts. I find to work effectively with Calendar, I am forced to use
> my legacy version of JAWS 9. JAWS 11 doesn't seem to want to see the
> buttons, or when it does, will not activate them using either the
> mouse or virtual cursors. If you are using Calendar with JAWS11, how have
you set it?
>
> Bill
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:35 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] Google Docs
>
> This is great news! I work in an organization which uses Google Docs
> extensively, and I find it to be a real struggle. If the document is
> simple enough, and I take a look at it while it's pretty stable then I
> can review it on line. Other than that, I either have the
> corresponding documents sent to me or use the command line interface
> to grab the document as a .doc or .odt file and work with it off line.
> Note I'm mostly reviewing documents and not actually generating a lot
> of Google Docs content myself. I'm still able to publish most of what
> I need to through the company's wiki. I'd love to hear any tricks or
> techniques people are using to work with Google Docs, especially with
Linux and Orca.
>
> Note that I have found Google Calendar is workable. It took me a while
> to learn different tricks and techniques to do what I need to, and
> although I wouldn't say I'm proficient at it, I can get done
> everything I need to in Google Calendar.
>
> Does anyone know if there's a way to work more closely with Google on
> improving the accessibility to Google Docs? I'd love the opportunity
> to see what they're doing and provide some feedback. Note that I can
> work in Windows with JAWS or NVDA and Linux with Orca, with Linux and
> Orca being my preferred environment.
>
> On 27/07/11 14:53, Pratik Patel wrote:
>> Google is making a concerted effort over the next two months to make
>> Google Docs more accessible to screen reader users. More
>> announcements should be made by September.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Pratik
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dorene Cornwell
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:51 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [VICUG-L] Google Docs
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> Is anyone working in an organization where people are successfully
>> using Google Docs with JAWS. So far, everything I amhearing requires
>> lots of workarounds with different JAWS cursors but one user I know
>> is using Sky Drive basically out of the box much more simply.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Experiences?
>>
>> Dorene Cornwell
>> Seattle WA
>>
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