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colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:33:21 -0600
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absolutely.
Cuba has one of the best health care systems on earth for their general 
population.
there might be allot of other things wrong with cuba, but their health care 
is second to none.
I would venture to guess that the US is the only industrialized, first world 
country that doesn't have a national health care system by which all 
residents are treated to adequit and timely medical care without having to 
pay for it directly.
Obviously taxes support a national health care system, but at least in other 
countries, you don't have to pay your taxes, and pay for medical care on top 
of that.
The american way seems to be pay, pay, and pay some more, and still not 
receive adequit service or care.
I would say that a country more interested in trillion dollar wars may not 
see a good healthcare system for their population as a priority.
Canada didn't always have a healthcare system either, but the one we have 
now, though always problematic as any large national organization is, is 
adequit and timely as far as care goes on the front line.
No one must pay out of pocket, or go into debt to stay healthy or to receive 
care for an illness.  Or, stay sick because they can't pay.
We pay our federal and provincial taxes, and that is enough to provide basic 
human needs for us.
what is the point in having a government, if that government won't even 
assist the general population with basic human needs? sooers, running and 
clean water, land, safety and security, healthcare, education and 
employment.
those are absolute basics, and implementation of programs to meet those 
needs doesn't fall under the definition of socialism.
Any government who is put in charge of a society or population can be said 
to be socialist to one extent or another.
Socialism seems to be a catch all phrase for anything americans don't like 
about federal programs.  Throw up that red flag named socialism and everyone 
starts thinking about the soviet union, cuba, china, and the eastern block.
social programs does not equal communism, two totally separate things. 
Capitalism and the "american way" can thrive and still do very well under a 
higher level of "socialist" style programs and services.
You pay less as a citizen, and you have more opportunities for education and 
healthcare and employment.  where is the negative here?
73
Colin, V A6BKX
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: This has nothing to do with ham radio


> They said the same thing about President Trumann.  Let's wait thirty years
> and then judge.
> The Health Care Reform act is a bad law, but it's a start to put us on a 
> par
> with other industrialized nations.  The problem is it doesn't reform the
> system.  Money is made by curing catastrophic illnesses, not by preventing
> them.  Where do you think the brightest minds in medicine go?  Right to
> specialization rather than to primary care.
> America has the best health care in the world, that is if you have a 
> million
> dollar illness like cancer.  Your child has a higher statistical chance of
> living to the age of five in Cuba than he or she does by being born in
> America.
> We fiddle while Rhome burns. 

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