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Patrick,
Relax. Take a deep breath and get some coffee. Now, what on earth are you saying?
You asked why Jesus came and I posted the scripture that addresses that question directly.
Back to the article. Articles like the one you posted in four parts are smokescreens and distractions so people can ignore the real issue which is: Does what they (Christians) believe line up with what the Bible says?
No one, least of all myself is casting any stones at anyone. I'm just inviting everyone on this list to do what I have to do: stand in front of Jesus and tell Him what you believe and if it does not align with what He and the Father says and believes, explain why you are on a different side from the side they are on (if you consider yourself Christian). No stones...just honesty.
By the way Patrick, sin is not only spiritual, sin is real, sin is carnal (meaning 'of the body'), sin is the mind, the will, the intellect, the emotion and the flesh's desire to rule (and sometimes they win the battle that day). Christians have to enforce satan's defeat, situation by situation, person by person, day by day. Jesus may have defeated satan, but you can't tell that by the state of the world and what the world sees in the Body of Christ. The Body looks, acts, and speaks more like the world than the world does. It is difficult to tell the difference. The Bible says to give no place to the devil. If a person is not aligned with God, then that person is aligned with satan whether they know it or not. There is no gray area, no DMZ between the two. People do not like to hear that because modern society tells us that what we believe is more important than anything else and that how we choose to interpret what we read (regarding scripture) should determine what we do
or don't do, what we believe or don't believe and that no one has the right to tell us differently or that we might be wrong in our beliefs. Modern society does not believe in absolute right or wrong anymore.
I'm going to share with you something Jesus told us recently: There is no mercy when we stand before Jesus at the Judgment Seat. The time for His mercy is now, while we're alive and walking on the earth. There are no excuses at the Judgment Seat, either.
We are all going to be held accountable for what we did and didn't do and for the things we said and didn't say and for what we chose to believe. All of us, without exception.
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"In the days before volcanoes were invented, lava had to be hand carried down from the mountains and poured on the sleeping villagers.
This took a great deal of time."
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Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:46 am
Subject: Re: Here is a recommended article from Grace to You
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> Dear Vera:
>
> Are you a sinner?
>
> You wrote "The reason the Son of God was made manifest (visible) was
> to undo (destroy, loosen, and dissolve) the works the devil [has
> done]."
>
> You are right. On the cross, Jesus after He had received the sour
> wine, He said, "It is finished!" (John 19:30 NKJV). What He meant,
> among other things, was that His task to defeat Satan was
> accomplished. Satan is defeated. And your sin is no longer counted
> against you if you beleive and trust in Christ. All Christ requires of
> you (and me) is to trust and have faith in Him.
>
> Furthermore, sinfulness is spiritual. And spiritual battles are not
> won with canality or human ingenuity, but by spiritual weapons.
> Zechariah 4:6 tells us it is "not by might, nor by power, but by My
> Spirit, says the Lord of hosts" (NKJV).
>
> Vain arguments don't win sinners to Christ. Only godly attitudes
> and/or edifying words of scripture do. Mat. 28:18-20 NKJV tell us that
> Jesus has all authorities in heaven and on earth. All we need to do is
> to carry out the Great Commission in humility and love. And by His
> Spirit Christ will do the rest.
>
> Remember the woman caught in adultery and brought to Christ by the
> Scribes and Pharisees who wanted to test and accuse Him? Jesus said to
> them, "he who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her
> first" (NKJV). Another version says "let him cast the first stone."
> And all the men (note: they didn't bring the adulterer) left one by
> one, convicted by their conscience.
>
> Are you, Vera, throwing the first stone on this forum?
>
> May Christ forgive us all.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
> Patrick M. Fau
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> Patrick.> > > Passage 1 John 3:8:> > 8[But] he who commits sin [who
> practices evildoing] is of the devil [takes his character from the
> evil one], for the devil has sinned (violated the divine law) from the
> beginning. The reason the Son of God was made manifest (visible) was
> to undo (destroy, loosen, and dissolve) the works the devil [has
> done]. AMP> > Passage 1 John 3:8:> > 8He that committeth sin is of the
> devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the
> Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the
> devil. KJV> > > > > Vera: > > > > What's the single important thing
> Christ came to earth to do? Hint: It > > wasn't to become a
> politician, although He didn't oppose fair public > > service. Read
> Mat. 18:11. > > > > You might want to also contact the author of the
> article to voice your > > opinion.> > > > Thanks.> > Patrick> > > >
> Patrick M. Fau > >
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> > or sending them to anyone else. > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:29:55 >
> > -0500> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Here is a > >
> recommended article from Grace to You> To: [log in to unmask]> > >
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> > articles are nice and they sound really good...but mostly, they are
> > > written to make people feel good about not aligning themselves
> with > > what 'Thus sayeth the Lord.' Yes, we have a duty to help save
> the > > lost, tell everyone about Jesus, spread the Gospel, feed the
> poor, > > heal the sick, pay our taxes, pray for our leaders (how many
> of you > > actually do that?). The real question, and it is a simple
> one, is > > this: Am I for what God is for and am I against what God
> is against, > > as written in the Scriptures? Not as some 'modern
> theologians' > > interpret it...what does it say? I heard a quote
> yesterday and the > > author says that in many instances, people "read
> what they believe" > > rather than "believe what they read." If you
> are not aligned with God, > > with whom are you aligned?> > Luke
> 6:26:> 26Woe to (alas for) you when > > everyone speaks fairly and
> handsomely of you and praises you, for even > > so their forefathers
> did to the false prophets.> > > > ******************************> "In
> the days before volcanoes were > > invented, lava had to be hand
> carried down from the mountains and > > poured on the sleeping
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