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Tom Behler <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:59:46 -0700
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    Well, I'm keeping my options open here, Anthony.  All I know is that I 
have to do something soon, since my old desktop computer is dying a slow 
death here.

73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anthony Vece" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Off Topic: Mac users list


> Well, the learning curve has to be less with WindowEyes.
> I already have the demo and, I am working through it.
> I should have done this when I left the working world.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 30, 2009, at 8:05 PM, Tom Behler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>>    Anthony:
>>
>> Well, not to prolong this thread, but Jaws 11 is worse than 10, in my
>> opinion, especially when it comes to focus issues and newer
>> applications
>> that FS doesn't support.
>>
>> Nevertheless, I am quite torn as well regarding what would be best
>> for a new
>> computer.  Whatever I do, there will be a definite learning curve.  I
>> suppose I could try Window Eyes, but that certainly won't eliminate
>> the
>> necessary evil of  a learning curve.
>>
>> I am finding out that there is some sort of hybrid computer that you
>> can get
>> out there that combines both Windows and Mac features, but I don't
>> know much
>> more about it right now.  I don't know if they do that by somehow
>> partitioning the hard drive, but I'll let you know if I find out more.
>>
>> 73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Anthony Vece" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 1:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Off Topic: Mac users list
>>
>>
>>> Hi Tom;
>>> I have had it with Jaws also!
>>> I am still using Windows XP. Home.
>>> I am using a Dell laptop that's.about five years old.
>>> And, Jaws has it's focus problems.
>>>
>>> I think in today's world Windowws is a necessary evil.
>>> Taking all this in to considderation, iam torn between a Mac or,
>>> WindowEyes.
>>> Any ideas?
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 30, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Tom Behler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Anthony:
>>>>
>>>> Now that I think about it, you were the guy who sent me the Mac info
>>>> before.
>>>> Thanks so much for sending it again, and I'll try not to loose it
>>>> this time!
>>>> HI!  HI!
>>>>
>>>> I do not want to belabor this "off topic" thread on the list, but I
>>>> will say
>>>> that I am having enough trouble with Jaws 11, and am hearing all
>>>> sorts of
>>>> problems with Jaws 11 and Windows 7, that I am re-thinking the
>>>> idea of
>>>> looking more seriously at a Mac for our new home computer.  I can
>>>> keep one
>>>> or two Windows machines handy for a while, while I try to learn the
>>>> ins and
>>>> outs of using a Mac with their on-board speech screen reader.  Plus,
>>>> the XYL
>>>> (who is sighted), seems very interested in the Mac.
>>>>
>>>> I am simply getting increasingly frustrated with Freedom
>>>> Scientific's Jaws
>>>> upgrades, and their inability or possibly unwillingness to support
>>>> Thunderbird e-mail and some of the other applications I now havbe to
>>>> use
>>>> with my new job.
>>>>
>>>> One big stumbling block for me that still exists regarding the Mac
>>>> is
>>>> whether my Duxbury Braille translation software, and Juliet Pro 60
>>>> embosser
>>>> will work with a Mac, and that may actually end up being a deciding
>>>> factor
>>>> against the Mac, at least for me.
>>>>
>>>> Will see what happens.
>>>>
>>>> I want to thank everyone for tolerating this "off topic" post on the
>>>> list
>>>> here, and I won't carry the thread any further, unless I find out
>>>> something
>>>> that may benefit others.
>>>>
>>>> Happy New Year to all, and thanks once again for a great, friendly,
>>>> and
>>>> informative list!
>>>>
>>>> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Anthony Vece" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:57 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Off Topic: Mac users list
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tom & Everyone;
>>>>>
>>>>> For those who are interested, their is a list of Mac users who are
>>>>> blind.
>>>>>
>>>>> The list is at:
>>>>>
>>>>> www.mac-visionaries.com
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm  almost certain that is the correct address.
>>>>>
>>>>> You might want to Google it.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, at:
>>>>>
>>>>> www.blindcooltech.com
>>>>>
>>>>> their are a whole host of podcasts that will assist you.
>>>>>
>>>>> A lot of those people are very resourceful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 De Anthony W2AJV
>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>> ECHOLINK NODE NUMBER: 74389
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Tom Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:18 PM
>>>>> Subject: Off Topic: Mac users list
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, folks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know this is off topic, so let me acknowledge that right off the
>>>>>> bat
>>>>>> here,
>>>>>> and ask anyone who has the info I'm requesting to reply off list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A few months ago, on this list, someone gave me a link to a blind
>>>>>> Mac
>>>>>> users
>>>>>> group, and some info on some podcasts of comparisons that have
>>>>>> been done
>>>>>> regarding accessability between Macs and windows-based computers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For some reason, I can't find that info anywhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I need to purchase a new home computer, and, even though I'm
>>>>>> leaning
>>>>>> toward
>>>>>> continuing with a windows-based machine, the Mac is tempting
>>>>>> enough that
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> want to look at it again seriously one last time before making my
>>>>>> final
>>>>>> purchase.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, please e-mail me off list at:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for taking this "off topic" post.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>>>>>
>>>
> 

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