Ken,

Is the 1.5 to 2 g per pound based on total or lean body mass?  I mean... do you feed the fat the same?  :)

Elaine
Firestone, CO



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From: Ken O'Neill <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 1:38:01 PM
Subject: Re: Proteing drinks

Jim:

The 100 gram a day idea no doubt stems from Dr Kellog's clinic in Battle
Creek a century ago - he invented corn flakes to rid us of protein in favor
of carbos! That number might work for bed ridden persons, notorious for
rapid onset muscle wasting due to inactivity and poor diet.

1.5 to 2 grams per pound of bodyweight is pretty much the standard for hard
training persons. The only contradiction I know to that is Dr Darden's
outdated 60% carbo diet.

Gluconeogenesis is not automatic, rather an on demand response. Long
distance runners suffer from muscle wasting due to that process stripping
muscle of branch chain amino acids, the ones used in glyconeogenesis - not
all aminos are subject to that process. Incidently, more energy is consumed
by that process occurring in the liver than is liberated in calories!

How can egg white proteins be heavy on soy unless the product is a blend.
Soy is not indigenous to egg white. Vendors such as the Protein Factory and
Jay Robb offer 100% undiluted albumen.


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From: Paleolithic Eating Support List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Jim Swayze
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:05 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Proteing drinks

Late entry to the discussion. A couple of additional points.  Forgive  
if they've already been discussed.

1) Adult humans need about 100g of protein a day. Anything in excess  
of that is simply converted to sugar via a process called  
gluconeogenesis.

2) I know of no paleo protein powders.  Even the egg white ones are  
heavy on soy.

Jim Swayze
www.fireholecanyon.com
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