Lou,
I also had an antenna from him back in the 80's. 86 feet total length,
full size on 40 with coils to shorten for 80, and a parallel dipole held
off with spreaders for 10 meters and coils to shorten for 20. Still have
the coils kicking around here and may do something with them in the future.
Bill W9INN was a nice guy and sorry he is now SK.
73 Steve KW3A
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lou Kolb" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: need some input on wire antennas for the Michigan House
>I had one of those W9INN antennas steve back in the 80s. It was 113-feet
> long and was intended for 160, 80 and 40. It worked terifically well,
> even
> on 160 and Bill was a great guy to deal with. lou
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Forst" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:38 PM
> Subject: Re: need some input on wire antennas for the Michigan House
>
>
>> Hi Lou,
>>
>> Yeah, it has a pair of loading coils. The coil design is similar to
>> the
>> Alpha Delta's, and the old W9INN antennas, with some enameled wire close
>> wound on a pvc form.
>>
>> The first one I had was 160, 75, and 40 at 124 feet long and I worked
>> lot's
>> of Stateside and a fair amount of DX with 100 watts on 160.
>>
>> 73, Steve KW3A
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lou Kolb" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: need some input on wire antennas for the Michigan House
>>
>>
>>> Steve,
>>>
>>> How does Hypower shorten that 160 meter antenna, with loading coils? Lou
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Steve Forst" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: need some input on wire antennas for the Michigan House
>>>
>>>
>>>> Tom,
>>>>
>>>> I never used the Cobra. Perhaps one of the other Steve's on the list.
>>>> Over the past few years I've used 2 of the shortened dipoles from
>>>> Hypower
>>>> Antenna Company in Pennsylvania. The current one up is full size for
>>>> 80
>>>> and shortened for 160 with a total length of 164 feet. A 40 meter
>>>> inverted
>>>> Vee is fed from the same feedpoint.
>>>>
>>>> Also had a off center type up for a while, but it's unbalanced design
>>>> gave
>>>> me RF problems causing the SS amp to trip on 80 and 40 meters at
>>>> anything
>>>> over 400 watts.
>>>>
>>>> As for the coax loss: Don't get too bent out of shape over it. Of
>>>> course
>>>> the higher the freq and longer the run, the more it comes into play.
>>>> Another consideration for dipoles is the weight and visibility of the
>>>> larger coax.
>>>>
>>>> I currently use Davis RF Bury-flex. Of course it's been several years
>>>> and
>>>> I'm sure the price has gone up since I bought it.
>>>>
>>>> 73 and good luck with the move and new set up, Steve KW3A
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "tom behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 6:49 PM
>>>> Subject: need some input on wire antennas for the Michigan House
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Steve:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, as usual, you are now causing me to think again on the coax
>>>>> issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is why this is such a great list.
>>>>>
>>>>> On a related topic, didn't you use one of those Cobra lites for a
>>>>> while?
>>>>>
>>>>> If so, what did you think of it?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to respond off list, use:
>>>>>
>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Steve Forst"
>>>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>
>>>>> To:
>>>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:43 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Need some input on HF wire antennas for the Michigan
>>>>> house
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom,
>>>>>
>>>>> Colin brings up an interesting point regarding loss, and only you can
>>>>> say
>>>>> if
>>>>> the loss is acceptable in your setup. Below is a link to a online
>>>>> coax
>>>>> loss
>>>>> calculator.
>>>>>
>>>>> Choose the type of coax from the drop down menu. Several name brands
>>>>> and
>>>>> generics are offered. enter your line length, freq. in mhz, load
>>>>> swr,
>>>>> and
>>>>> power output. Then let it calculate your losses.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't forget that loss goes both ways: RX as well as TX. There is
>>>>> good
>>>>> stuff as well as junk stuff in all sizes. If you save a few bucks
>>>>> today
>>>>> buy
>>>>> buying poor quality coax and then have to replace it in 5 years, it
>>>>> wasn't
>>>>> much of a bargain.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ocarc.ca/coax.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>>>>
>>>
>
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