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Vera,
Nothing in the e-mail implied that you made a racist joke--did you really not get it?
you made a demeaning african joke ( and you are not african) -- and i was just trying to show you a similarity that it is the same as racial jokes so you can relate to how it hurts so you can listen and understand --but what was i thinking right? Look at your response, again you do not listen and see yourself as the victim?!
--
Anina M
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First, I have never and will never put anyone down. Second, I don't make racist jokes. I don't operate that way. Many people on this listserve do not agree with my views on various subjects and show that through constant personal attacks, tactics that I do not stoop to.
My first statement on the inhumanity of the couple that defrauded the nuns should have been an indicator of my feelings toward fraudulent behavior of any kind and especially towards a group of people who devote their lives to service. The second statement was obviously meant to be facetious...and all of you know that. It is just that it has become a habit to purposefully misinterpret everything I post on this board and it doesn't take much to get it started...
Get your flame on!
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"In the days before volcanoes were invented, lava had to be hand carried down from the mountains and poured on the sleeping villagers.
This took a great deal of time."
----- Original Message -----
From: Anina M <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:47 pm
Subject: Re: Kenyan pair indicted in scam
To: African Association of Madison <[log in to unmask]>
Cc: VERA R CROWELL <[log in to unmask]>
> Vera,
> Do racial jokes make you laugh? Especially if they come from someone
> who is not a minority as you are not African putting down Africans any
> chance you get?
> That is always how i have seen you with your comments in this list
> server and in this e-mail exchange, you just confirmed it yourself.
> The saddest thing is that you don't get it and you don't really
> care--too egocentric to listen and worry on how your words are
> affecting the ones receiving them in a negative way. As long as that
> not what you intended then why should you worry how they feel. You
> are not the first one to encounter with such character/soul and i am
> sure will not be last but unfortunately we have to take your emotional
> abuse because you are still allowed to use this forum to put Africans
> down when you get a chance. Usually, we just walk away from people
> like you.
>
> And you did understand what Zainab meant "expensive joke" but you
> chose to continue with your joke by acting dumb. Trust me, this list
> server is full of the smartest People you will have the opportunity to
> meet. We get it and we got what you did next. You were probably
> continuing to laugh thinking these idiots will not get this so giving
> us definitions.
>
> And this is Anina, not Meja in case that is the name showing up on the
> e-mail.
> --
> Anina M
> --
> Anina M
>
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> It's only expensive if you send your account information. It should
> have been obvious to everyone on this list that my statement was tongue-in-cheek.
>
> From dictionary.com: tongue-in-cheek (tŭng'ĭn-chēk') adj. Meant or
> expressed ironically or facetiously.
>
> From dictionary.com: fa⋅ce⋅tious /fəˈsiʃəs/ Show Spelled
> Pronunciation [fuh-see-shuhs] Show IPA
> –adjective
> 1. not meant to be taken seriously or literally: a facetious remark.
> 2. amusing; humorous.
> 3. lacking serious intent; concerned with something nonessential,
> amusing, or frivolous: a facetious person.
>
> Shall I continue?
>
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> "In the days before volcanoes were invented, lava had to be hand
> carried down from the mountains and poured on the sleeping villagers.
> This took a great deal of time."
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Zainabu Kooistra <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:26 am
> Subject: Re: Kenyan pair indicted in scam
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>
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> > Trust me Vera we do, but this is an expensive one.
> >
> > --- On Thu, 3/26/09, VERA R CROWELL <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > From: VERA R CROWELL <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Kenyan pair indicted in scam
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 10:16 AM
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> > Do none of you have jokes where you're from?
> >
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> > "In the days before volcanoes were invented, lava had to be hand carried
> > down from the mountains and poured on the sleeping villagers.
> > This took a great deal of time."
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Thomas Adeetuk <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:05 am
> > Subject: Re: Kenyan pair indicted in scam
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
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> > > Vera,
> > >
> > > Let's be real. Do all Africans really use e-mail ONLY for fraud?
> At
> >
> > > least I am not aware of any Africans on this listserve who have
> > used
> > > e-mail to perpertuate fraud. If you know of any could you identify
>
> > > them for those of us in the dark? Thanks.
> > >
> > > Thomas Adeetuk
> > > College Library
> > > Helen C. White Hall
> > > 600 N. Park Street
> > > Madison, WI 53706
> > > (608)263-3145
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: VERA R CROWELL <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:41 am
> > > Subject: Re: Kenyan pair indicted in scam
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > >
> > >
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> > > > Actually, it's embarrassing for all of us for those two to be
> > > called
> > > > human...doesn't matter where they are from. Besides, everyone
> > knows
> > >
> > > > that Africans only use e-mail for fraudulent purposes because
> they
> >
> > > > have large sums of money they need to get out of any country
> (pick
> >
> > > > one) and they desperately need our help and our account numbers...
> > > >
> > > > ******************************
> > > > "In the days before volcanoes were invented, lava had to be
> > hand
> > > > carried down from the mountains and poured on the sleeping villagers.
> > > > This took a great deal of time."
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Mike Kiguta <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:37 pm
> > > > Subject: Re: Kenyan pair indicted in scam
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > > This really gives Kenyans and Africans a bad rep. Hopefully
> > > people
> > > > do
> > > > > not
> > > > > see this as a representation of Kenyans as a whole. This is
> > pretty
> > > > > embarrassing for me as a Kenyan.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Aggo Akyea
> > <[log in to unmask]>
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> > > > > > [image: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel] <
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Kenyan pair indicted in scam*
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *2 accused of bilking Pewaukee nuns*
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > By Marie Rohde<of the Journal Sentinel
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Posted: Mar. 24, 2009
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/41795467.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A federal grand jury Tuesday indicted a Kenyan couple on
> > > charges
> > > >
> > > > > that they
> > > > > > bilked < a Pewaukee
> > > > > > order of Roman Catholic nuns out of $815,000 and spent
> > much of
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > > money at
> > > > > > casinos.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Charged in the three-count indictment alleging mail fraud
> > were
> > > Angela
> > > > > > Martin-Mulu, 35, and Edward Bosire, 39. The couple
> > maintained
> > > > > apartments in
> > > > > > both Chicago and Bolingbrook , Ill.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They arrived in the United States in 1999 and received
> > > political
> > > >
> > > > > asylum in
> > > > > > 2007, according to the U.S. attorney's office in
> > Milwaukee .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If convicted, the defendants each face up to 20 years in
> > prison
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > > a fine
> > > > > > of $250,000. It was not immediately clear whether they
> > could
> > > > remain
> > > > > in the
> > > > > > U.S. after their release if they are convicted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > According to a U.S. attorney's office statement, the
> > couple
> > > > targeted
> > > > > a
> > > > > > number of religious orders in Wisconsin and elsewhere in
> > > seeking
> > > >
> > > > > money for
> > > > > > educational debt, living expenses and medical bills.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The charges were based on a yearlong FBI investigation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Pewaukee nuns are from the Carmelite monastery built
> > in
> > > 1957.
> > > >
> > > > > There are
> > > > > > eight women in the order who live a simple life of prayer,
> >
> > > > > contemplation and
> > > > > > physical labor. Their main support comes from donations
> > and
> > > money
> > > > earned
> > > > > > through the distribution of communion hosts to parishes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The couple first visited the monastery in 2004, asking for
> >
> > > money
> > > > for
> > > > > food,
> > > > > > rent and other living expenses.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They claimed to have medical bills resulting from
> > pneumonia,
> > > > malaria
> > > > > and
> > > > > > tuberculosis, but authorities said the pair had not been
> > > treated
> > > > for
> > > > > those
> > > > > > or other serious illnesses.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The money the nuns gave the couple came from a health
> > fund,
> > > money
> > > > saved
> > > > > > over nearly 70 years to cover their own medical expenses.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The nuns said they had no health insurance because it was
> > too expensive.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Find this article at:*
> > > > > > http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/41795467.html
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