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not true, you can learn how to work on an iphone too.

On Jun 10, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Baracco, Andrew W wrote:

As I said on another list, you can use the analogy of a car.  If all you want to do is to drive the car, buy and iPhone.  If you want to learn how to work on the car as well as drive it, get an Android phone.
 
Andy
 
 
From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 10:19 AM
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Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] The Current State of Cell Phone Accessibility
 
Let me add a clarification to your clarification.
 
The T-Mobile g2, even though a wonderful phone, does not come with Talkback preinstall. Yes, it runs the stock Android experience; but, for some odd reason, HTC removed the accessibility options from the phone. You will need sighted assistance to first set up the phone, then to  download and install several components. Once installation is done, you will need further assistance to turn these options on. Frankly speaking, T-Mobile provides no assistance whatsoever to any of their blind customers in this regard. Having tested Android phones, it is not yet a platform for the faint of heart when it comes to accessibility. If you are willing to play and figure things out, then by all means go with an Android phone. I recognize that, for philosophical or other reasons, people are choosing Android phones. But, if the posts on the Android accessibility list are any indication, there is a high level of frustration as well.
 
Regards,
 
Pratik
 
From: Ana G [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 12:56 PM
To: Pratik Patel
Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] The Current State of Cell Phone Accessibility
 
Darren Burton's article on the current state of cell phone accessibility in the latest _Access World_ is nicely done. I'm going to clarify two details about Android.
 
1. T-Mobile offers a couple of Android phones that blind people can use. The T-Mobile G2 runs vanilla Android, includes a hardware keyboard, and has an optical trackpad users can feel. It's actually one of the best Android options for screen reader users. I know one or two other T-Mobile phones are being used by people on the Eyes-Free Android list, but since I'm not a customer myself, I don't remember what they are.
 
2. Mobile Accessibility is a great product for Android, providing a screen reader comparable to Talkback or Spiel and a self-voicing suite of apps that enables users to access common features, like phone calling, text messaging, and web browsing, but it's not essencial in Android the way Talks and Mobile Speak are essencial on the Windows and Symbian platforms. In other words, you can use an Android phone without Mobile Accessibility.
 
Stop by my blog: 
http://AccessibleAndroid.blogspot.com
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