40 was a little touchy for me and it fixed that too, it worked on 40 but the
internal tuner in the radio didn't care for it. It fixed that too, other
than that and 160 as I mentioned earlier, I didn't notice any difference
what so ever.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: some thoughts on 17 meters for next week's net
> John,
>
> Did shortening the ladder line improve anything besides 160?
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 17:10
> Subject: Re: some thoughts on 17 meters for next week's net
>
>
>> actually, the newer ones the ladder line is 19 feet shorter than the
>> older
>> ones were, when I got mine and I'm told that's because they did find
>> that's
>> a magic number to make it work better. If you look on the site, I think
>> the
>> ladder line's about 81 feet now instead of the 100 it used to be.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: some thoughts on 17 meters for next week's net
>>
>>
>>> Interesting. I thought about doing that, but didn't want the
>>> performance
>>> to
>>> suffer on other bands.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 15:07
>>> Subject: Re: some thoughts on 17 meters for next week's net
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've run it there, it works very well for most of the band, I have
>>>> trouble
>>>> at the very bottom of the band with the tuner in the radio but beyond
>>>> that,
>>>> I've run it there and it's playing decent. I know others doing it as
>>>> well.
>>>> What's funny is, I trimmed about 20 feet off the ladder line and I
>>>> think
>>>> it
>>>> actually plays better on 160 now than it did before I did that.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 2:59 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: some thoughts on 17 meters for next week's net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> John,
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you tried the Ultralite on 160? I've tried tuning mine there,
>>>>> but
>>>>> it's
>>>>> very touchy and I'm not sure it will work very well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 12:45
>>>>> Subject: Re: some thoughts on 17 meters for next week's net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> the cobra ultralight is 160 as well, the senior version, if you
>>>>>> google
>>>>>> it,
>>>>>> you can find info on it. It's 160 through 10, I love mine.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 12:22 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: some thoughts on 17 meters for next week's net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is cobra ultra-lite? I'm thinking of the alfa delta as I'm
>>>>>>> wanting
>>>>>>> to try 160 as well.
>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>>> open Node 3148
>>>>>>> Las Vegas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, John Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd say cobra ultralite would get you better results but that might
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> stretch for the land you have, that's noticeably better than my
>>>>>>>> g5rv
>>>>>>>> was.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:18 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: some thoughts on 17 meters for next week's net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I had a g5rv here, but I run a magnus amp at times and the g5rv
>>>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> tuner for the amp to work. I didn't have them both up at the same
>>>>>>>>> time,
>>>>>>>>> but I didn't see much difference when I took the g5rv down and put
>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>> the b and w.
>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>>>>> open Node 3148
>>>>>>>>> Las Vegas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, John Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why not put up a g5rv or something? if the center is high enough
>>>>>>>>>> form
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> ends, it will fit in a 100 foot yard.
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:48 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: some thoughts on 17 meters for next week's net
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have a gap vertical, which was better yesterday. I also have
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> b
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> w all band, I call it my dummy load with wires. It is a
>>>>>>>>>>> compromise
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> know, but My lot here is only 100 feet deep.
>>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>>>>>>> open Node 3148
>>>>>>>>>>> Las Vegas
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, Gerry
>>>>>>>>>>> Leary wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you have for an antenna?
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:16 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: some thoughts on 17 meters for next week's net
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't believe my station sucks that bad, but I only heard
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> station
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I don't even know where he was located. I finally gave
>>>>>>>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> know if it is propogation, my location or all of the above,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>>> discouraging here in Las Vegas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>>>>>>>>> open Node 3148
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Las Vegas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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