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Lou Kolb <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:49:18 -0400
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Tom,

They should snap and/or hiss when they arc.  It's usually pretty audible. 
Lou
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: Tuners


> The one time I was near one that arced, you could hear it. Luckily it 
> wasn't
> mine and I wasn't the one using it, but that's what can happen when you 
> tune
> an antenna with a kilowatt, that's a good reason auto tuners won't tune 
> with
> more than a certain amount of power in to them. I imagine the mfj tuners
> that arc, that's probably why in a lot of cases, tuning with too much 
> power.
> I cut mine back, way back when I tune, and no amp until I'm all tuned up.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "tom behler" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Tuners
>
>
>>    Can I ask a dum question at this point?
>>
>> How do you know when a tuner arcs?
>>
>> What indications does it give you, other than the smell of smoke if it
>> arcs
>> too much?
>>
>> I just had to ask;  don't laugh too loud!
>>
>> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: Tuners
>>
>>
>> I owned an MFJ KW tuner once, I forget the model number, but it was the
>> one
>> below their roller inductor.  It arked at times when using my SB220.
>>
>> Phil.
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: Tuners
>>
>>
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>> If I were buying a tuner, I'd want two things: high quality of
>>> construction,
>>> and enough power handling so that I could expand beyond what I'm running
>>> now.  Although several people have had good luck with MFJ tuners, I have
>>> also heard complaints from some hams that they fall short in many
>>> respects.
>>> You might want to look at some customer reviews on eham.net.  Some are
>>> more
>>> useful than others, and I always find the negative ones instructive.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "tom behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 21:25
>>> Subject: Re: Tuners
>>>
>>>
>>>>    Steve:
>>>>
>>>> Well, that's starting to get out of my budget range right now, but at
>>>> the
>>>> same time, I'll have to weigh that against quality factors.
>>>>
>>>> I know that some things MFJ makes are of questionable quality, and I
>>>> have
>>>> to
>>>> consider that too.
>>>>
>>>> Decisions, Decisions, Decisions!
>>>>
>>>> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Steve Forst" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:45 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Tuners
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tom,
>>>>
>>>> I've had this one  several years and it is out of production.  The 
>>>> newer
>>>> models in the line will   run   439$ to 499$ depending on power rating.
>>>> The $439 one is a new model rated at 600 watts.   Of course they also
>>>> have
>>>> other specialized  models for super high power, balanced line only,
>>>> automatic   and so on that will cost more.
>>>>
>>>> If I ever buy another tuner, it would be the Palstar auto.  Hey it's
>>>> only
>>>> money.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>>>
>>>>  from
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "tom behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:19 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Tuners
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>    Steve:
>>>>>
>>>>> I shouldn't speak for him, but I think Kevin has one of those Tentech
>>>>> 238B
>>>>> tuners.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you approximate prices for me on your Palstar?
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Steve Forst" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:34 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Tuners
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom,
>>>>>
>>>>> I also have a Palstar in the shack, at 1500 cv.   Maybe a little more
>>>>> expensive than MFJ, but  works well and well built.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I think    Ten-Tec still makes the 238 B  which is also  a nicely
>>>>> built
>>>>> tuner.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Ed Malmgren" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:09 PM
>>>>> Subject: Tuners
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>    Tom, you might look at one from Palstar, they build some pretty
>>>>>> high
>>>>>> quality tuners.  I use the Palstar 1500 B A L but it is only for twin
>>>>>> lead
>>>>>> so you may want some type   which works both twin line and coax.  73
>>>>>> Ed  K7UC
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> 

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