I am absolutely sure, Mr. Phil, that you were filled with the spirit
before age 30 because if I remember correctly, you became a Christian
much longer
Hugs,
Doris
and every Christian is indwelt by the spirit.
At 01:50 PM 8/14/2013 -0600, you wrote:
>Doris,
>
>I was filled with the Holy Spirit at age 30 by myself in the
>basement of my home. I never spoke in tongues until three years later.
>
>Phil.
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>----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris and Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:35 PM
>Subject: Re: Pray Without Ceasing - Tongues?
>
>
>>That's what the Lord tells me in my middle when I talk to him. The
>>little tradition I come from, rejects speaking in tongues while
>>several of my friends insnist on it being a sign of a true
>>born-again Christian. I think one is as wrong as the other.
>>
>>I've never personally felt the need or desire to speak in tongues
>>but am glad for th ose who find expression and access to God when
>>they use the gift.
>>Actually, as a much younger Christian I sometimes longed for the
>>gift of tongues when I feltI had no words or may prayer just went
>>to the ceiling or lower still , i wished I could speak in tongues.
>>Today I think that when it gets to middle stuff, I think a lot of
>>that is beyond words anyway. A lot of deep stuff is. Often with
>>Chrhis and me, we know what the other thinks anyway and there is no
>>need for words. Sometimes when I share deep with Papito, I ask him
>>if he can see my middle and even more often he does and sometimes
>>before I do like a daddy does. And if people like Chris or Papito
>>don't - and Ned doesn't believe in angel speak but just in
>>"tongues" as being able to speak other languages like Spanish or
>>German - then Mr. God sure doesn't because he is in the middle and
>>all around and he made us in the first place knitting needles and
>>all. The gifts we get are to help us to help God do his God stuff
>>whether Angel Speak so we have a channel for beyond words stuff if
>>that helps us because God's loves to hear from us or whether it is
>>the gift of using languages to preach to other people - or, I bet,
>>language in any sense not just for preaching but for writing and
>>writing songs and music and painting with words in whatever form.
>>
>>Isn't there some song about one's life being a song or prayer to
>>God in the first place? I have half-remembered lyrics in the back
>>of my mind ever since us starting this subject - not tongues but
>>the ceaseless prayer - but I don't remember lyrics really nor a tune. Oh well.
>>
>>Thanks for your confirmation on the subject, Mr. Phil.
>>
>>In his loving grip!
>>
>>Doris
>>
>>
>>At 12:31 PM 8/14/2013 -0600, you wrote:
>>>Doris,
>>>
>>>You are correct. Tongues is a spiritual gift, which means, no one
>>>needs, or has to, speak in tongues. It belongs in the prayer
>>>category due to its twofold nature. However, anyone who says you
>>>have to speak in tongues for any reason isn't interpreting
>>>Scripture correctly. Pray without ceasing isn't tongues but it
>>>could be used at times in the process; it's just not a requirement.
>>>
>>>Phil.
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