Dear Doris,

No, I'm not late on the thread. Not at all. I've red every single 
message about it, and I even downloaded the book, and I've red the 
first part of it already, so I am not late on the thread.

Thanks.

Pat Ferguson

At 09:35 AM 8/6/2013, you wrote:
>You are late on the thread, aren't you, lovely lady? *smile*
>
>It is a book Chris and I are currently reading, which is by 
>"Dr."Larry" Lawrence Crabb, Christian psychologist, counselor and 
>author.I had posted it up to sendspace as an .rtf ebook and a 
>tts2audio book read by Neospeech.
>hth
>
>Doris
>
>
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>
>At 08:39 AM 8/6/2013 -0500, you wrote:
>>Hi Everyone,
>>
>>This sounds like a great book.
>>
>>Is it on BookShare?
>>
>>Okay, what does  PAPA  stand  for in the book "Papa Prayer??
>>
>>I mean, we know Jesus is our Papa, Daddy, Father, God, and so on. <smile>
>>
>>Thanks much.
>>
>>Blessings,
>>
>>Pat Ferguson
>>At 09:39 PM 8/5/2013, you wrote:
>>>I read the entire book Doris and her husband recommended today and 
>>>found it well worth the time.  Unfortunately, to describe a form 
>>>of unstructured prayer, you have to be structured, thus the book 
>>>reads as a formula.  He makes it clear, on the other hand, it in 
>>>no way is a formula and after reading the whole book, I would 
>>>agree; he is not teaching prayer as a formula to follow.  His 
>>>techniques, or outline of P A P A is easy to remember and that is 
>>>the purpose of his outline structure.  He also shows how his form 
>>>of prayer can become easy and automatic by following the PAPA 
>>>outline.  His description of each point is down to earth and the 
>>>cases to which he relates as a counselor, psychologist, and 
>>>minister, is excellent.  On a scale of 1 to 100, I've rate the 
>>>book a 95.  I feel he left things out but as he admits in the 
>>>book, he is just in first grade and still in the learning 
>>>stage.  I, on the other hand, haven't even gotten to the school 
>>>door yet, haha.  The things with which I disagreed weren't all 
>>>that important but the basic format he uses is most certainly 
>>>Scripturally documented and Biblical in practice and I would have 
>>>no problem recommending it to anyone wishing to learn how to 
>>>pray.  I know what it takes to explain the form of prayer he is 
>>>describing because it is very similar to what I do except I can 
>>>teach someone how to pray this form of silent prayer in one email 
>>>message or in 5 minutes, if my voice holds out that long.  In 
>>>fact, it is so simple, it's the reason most people don't believe 
>>>it; it is not quite enough work in their minds.  Christianity is 
>>>mostly taught as a form of works.  I, on the other hand, fell into 
>>>that trap and worked my butt off trying to be the best Christian I 
>>>could be and hoped and prayed God noticed me.  In a followup 
>>>message, I will explain to you the type of Christian I am now and 
>>>you will see we don't have to work at prayer because the work has 
>>>already been done.  While I am thinking about it, one thing with 
>>>which I definitely disagreed was his explanation of why our 
>>>prayers are not answered.  Basically he says, it is because our 
>>>relationship with God must be developed first and then we can 
>>>graduate up to the point we can petition God.  This is not true 
>>>but he did not belabor the point so I won't either.
>>>
>>>Phil.
>>>