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Lou Kolb <[log in to unmask]>
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Yes, especially the higher the power Tom.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "tom behler" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: Tuners


>    Lou:
>
> And, I'd think the sounds would be more pronounced, the higher the power,
> and the less well-tuned things are?
>
> Thanks, and 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lou Kolb" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 4:49 PM
> Subject: Re: Tuners
>
>
> Tom,
>
> They should snap and/or hiss when they arc.  It's usually pretty audible.
> Lou
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Tuners
>
>
>> The one time I was near one that arced, you could hear it. Luckily it
>> wasn't
>> mine and I wasn't the one using it, but that's what can happen when you
>> tune
>> an antenna with a kilowatt, that's a good reason auto tuners won't tune
>> with
>> more than a certain amount of power in to them. I imagine the mfj tuners
>> that arc, that's probably why in a lot of cases, tuning with too much
>> power.
>> I cut mine back, way back when I tune, and no amp until I'm all tuned up.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "tom behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: Tuners
>>
>>
>>>    Can I ask a dum question at this point?
>>>
>>> How do you know when a tuner arcs?
>>>
>>> What indications does it give you, other than the smell of smoke if it
>>> arcs
>>> too much?
>>>
>>> I just had to ask;  don't laugh too loud!
>>>
>>> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Tuners
>>>
>>>
>>> I owned an MFJ KW tuner once, I forget the model number, but it was the
>>> one
>>> below their roller inductor.  It arked at times when using my SB220.
>>>
>>> Phil.
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:45 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Tuners
>>>
>>>
>>>> Tom,
>>>>
>>>> If I were buying a tuner, I'd want two things: high quality of
>>>> construction,
>>>> and enough power handling so that I could expand beyond what I'm 
>>>> running
>>>> now.  Although several people have had good luck with MFJ tuners, I 
>>>> have
>>>> also heard complaints from some hams that they fall short in many
>>>> respects.
>>>> You might want to look at some customer reviews on eham.net.  Some are
>>>> more
>>>> useful than others, and I always find the negative ones instructive.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "tom behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 21:25
>>>> Subject: Re: Tuners
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>    Steve:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, that's starting to get out of my budget range right now, but at
>>>>> the
>>>>> same time, I'll have to weigh that against quality factors.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that some things MFJ makes are of questionable quality, and I
>>>>> have
>>>>> to
>>>>> consider that too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Decisions, Decisions, Decisions!
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Steve Forst" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:45 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Tuners
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had this one  several years and it is out of production.  The
>>>>> newer
>>>>> models in the line will   run   439$ to 499$ depending on power 
>>>>> rating.
>>>>> The $439 one is a new model rated at 600 watts.   Of course they also
>>>>> have
>>>>> other specialized  models for super high power, balanced line only,
>>>>> automatic   and so on that will cost more.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I ever buy another tuner, it would be the Palstar auto.  Hey it's
>>>>> only
>>>>> money.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>>>>
>>>>>  from
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "tom behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:19 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Tuners
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>    Steve:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I shouldn't speak for him, but I think Kevin has one of those Tentech
>>>>>> 238B
>>>>>> tuners.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you approximate prices for me on your Palstar?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Steve Forst" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:34 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Tuners
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also have a Palstar in the shack, at 1500 cv.   Maybe a little more
>>>>>> expensive than MFJ, but  works well and well built.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I think    Ten-Tec still makes the 238 B  which is also  a nicely
>>>>>> built
>>>>>> tuner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Ed Malmgren" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:09 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Tuners
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Tom, you might look at one from Palstar, they build some pretty
>>>>>>> high
>>>>>>> quality tuners.  I use the Palstar 1500 B A L but it is only for 
>>>>>>> twin
>>>>>>> lead
>>>>>>> so you may want some type   which works both twin line and coax.  73
>>>>>>> Ed  K7UC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> 

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